Dating a divorced man in his late 40s

Dating a man in his late thirties

can clarify what she meant by the perelman comment, if she meant him physically or what is known about his personality. maybe these women find him “ugly sexy” because of his outsized and dominant personality. she can command virtually unlimited money and resources for personal trainers, nutrition consultants, makeup artists and cosmetic surgery. looking for a right / good man here who is serious, love kids and family is so difficult, because i am from vietnam, people here very traditional and strict …. lowe looks like he’s had some work, so i’m not sure that his naural physical condition is much better than that of the mother who gave him two sons and stuck with him through his drug issues. very few couples maintain that excitement for a long period of time… though some manage it for a lifetime. he wasn’t perfect (see john snow) but he was a man of honor and character, a benevolent alpha. frankly, the idea of pursuing a woman with romantic intentions has no appeal. no reason to suspect a woman who is a virgin at x point is an ice queen (30 maybe). you’re taking this out of context and blowing it out of proportion.! i had to laugh at your description of so many men’s dating profiles.”one problem is when the women (or men) decide to do this after they get married and have children.@ susanthe good news is that most women are not looking at older guys – as i said in the op i have witnessed real resistance to this. we will dance and drink and party, and then we will make out in his car for an hour before i head inside.. i am not running anyone except ron perelman down, whom i consider to be a bad man. in some ways it seems much more complicated at this age because we can experience a relationship in so many other ways than the traditional fall-in-love-move-in-get-married-have-kids paradigm. how many times have we heard guys say “sloppy seconds” here? this is a blog for young women, ostensibly you are here for your daughter. ”to be fair, this is probably just how i interpreted the catholic tradition of teaching with negativity. she referred to — and recoiled from — perelman’s physical attributes, not his character defects. that does not mean i will ever settle for a man from a good family who’s got no personality, humour or education., i guess my question is, outside of hus, is anyone actually incorporating this rule of thumb into their advice? while our relationship is fairly egaliatarian, i have repeatedly described my husband as a socially dominant individual who exerts his dominance over the business world in such a way as it produces resources for our family.) i have no intention of suffering the slow decline of a disease of affluence like so many in my family have. sure, a couple of them are slackers, but the vast majority of them are just about to finish school and many of them are quite intelligent and will do very well career-wise. since high levels of this masculinizing hormone interfere with the immune system, the theory goes, macho men must be extra-fit to withstand the handicap their extra testosterone confers. like the quote to deti yesterday, be the change you wish to see in this world, ted! i am not saying i don’t want to be responsible for myself and my son, i am just saying that i should not have to be solely responsible for a grown man as he shouldn’t have to be solely responsible for me either!, if you are a size zero anorexic, you are certainly less likely to have womanly curves. the nationwide trauma that followed this incident and the media coverage it received (in contrast to the relative indifference shown to the other cases) led the federal government to take legal action, issuing the sati commission (prevention) act a year later. this pissed her off at first but they stuck together and gradually her prissiness wore off and she really loosened up and aquired a better taste for humor herself. i think it’s fair to say that any woman who marries you in future is a fool. i don’t care how many men tell me that’s impossible, i lived it. but i still believe there are many good women ( at least i am one of them) who are single.“men are becoming increasingly resentful of this kind of scrutiny that questions their character simply because they are unmarried in their 30s.“as for you, i find it hard to believe that you were at the bottom of the pile with those luscious big brown south asian boobies and delectable chocolate nipples. as zach said, three dates has become the functional norm by which sexual chemistry needs to be validated, hence this woman’s risk of being summarily dismissed by a young man with many other options available to him. i’ll take at face value what you all say that you are not at all attracted to men 15 to 20 years older (although part of me wonders if this is one of those cases where we should watch they do rather than listen to what they say).(raises hand) some of us do value this little thing called “western civilization”. he could be angry after he would hear that, but then, wouldn’t be telling him to re-evaluate his value in the eyes of his “targets” be actually better for him?” a more restricted type of guy might like the idea of having a sort of sexual tabula rasa as his partner, and then developing things from there. it was not always this way, i have family (by marriage) who are old h-p, n-b wasps and in their heyday they ruled that area and all their institutions, such as the la country club, the california club and the newport harbor yacht club, las madrinas and the like were off limits to movie people.’s true that as a man gets older, he will have a tougher time dating 20 year olds. i’ll admit that zach’s descriptions of this woman have me finding her endearing, and i don’t know a damn thing about her. when i was 18, i did not feel mature enough to be dating a man in his upper 20s or 30s. i would give anything to have seen his face when you emerged. affairs are common – the woman has little to lose if she’s young and single, provided she doesn’t fall for you. response to “frank,”my experience since divorce has been one player after another and when i finally thought i found an honest, caring guy… 4 years into the relationship his double life was revealed.“jp – yeah but you are literally sticking it to the “man” when you sue the fed. you have claimed to be a restricted woman, but you have had your share of short term flings, alpha boyfriends, and at least one flyby from an air force pilot, right? she is declaring where her mind is as a general matter, not making a tactical move in a dating game with a specific man. in fact, his online dating profile photo is likely to be . his “maturity” is not a plus unless it affords the woman something she can’t get from a guy her own age or a bit older. he has all the info i had gathered in his side as your kids will. if i was friends with charles manson, and a girl who he was hitting on asked me what he was like, i’d tell her he was a fantastic, balanced, sane guy. granted, a month later he turned 25, but he was wiser, more eloquent and more mature in the spiritual/emotional sense than even many men who have years on him. my experience is that the guy will stay in the bad ltr, but only until he finds his next jumpoff girl, so as to not interrupt the steady sex supply. his daughter ends up being played by a cad who used the lessons directly from her dad’s blog. bumble the beadle in oliver twist, if you want to know his ending! i didn’t even think about how this post might make them feel – i’m sorry about that. is this something you see in a lot of men, or just a few that are at the ends of the bell curve of the ones you’ve dated? you don’t even allow the small talk with the woman at work. if you can’t manage to keep a relationship together for more than a few years but it does happen.: zach’s latest conquest, i think hope pinned it in post 1396. up to the sweetest, most resilient and independent young man you’ve ever seen.”so you don’t feel neglected…again, from my pov, just one ons for a young woman is riding the carousel. i think many guys employ the same reasoning as i do in dating, that they will go out casually, meet new people, and at the chance they find someone whom they connect with, possibly start a relationship when they feel it is right. as a point of inquiry from any of you who may be more knowledgeable than i am; how does this situation fit into finding a companion, a committed woman with this type of variable? if i was friends with charles manson, and a girl who he was hitting on asked me what he was like, i’d tell her he was a fantastic, balanced, sane guy. imagine a woman at the higher range of that age, say 40-50, the only women i read about who go that age are those who marry men with lots of money, and the cynical view is that if he will become frail within a relatively short period of time, they are ready to scoop up the dollars. i think you are far better off being single than divorced, since things didn’t work out with your xf. just showed how out of it he is (never heard of ed, gayatri or subaltern studies) as well as betrayed his lack of a sense of humor. we both have our lives (he has a very demanding jog), while i work (in a low pressure job), play sports two nights a week and spend time with my kids.” i think there are many people each of us could be potentially happy with. i needed to know that the man truly loved me and cared about me before he got to even first base. in occasional paranoid brainstorms, i sometimes wonder if being divorced is preferential to being single at a certain point. that’s really all i’ve been saying charlotte should do but you’ve responded as if i were making some paleolithic demand. and quite possiblely for many years, too, just like my grandmother. there are certain life milestones that break this up more than you might think (marriage, kids, etc). did svetlana in ukraine take all your money on that romance tour?. at my age, if i was heavy on the sauce, it would take a little more than that to “stir my manhood” (which is not to say that it couldn’t be stirred). i’ve visited one or two of the most popular man-blogs and i quickly left after seeing a bunch of guys who claimed to be in their 80’s brag about moving to the phillipines, mexico, and the rural areas of china for ”real women. i don’t think women have any idea that many men in their 30s would like to settle down – as you say, all the media attention is on aging women not being able to find mates. college kids at least have ltrs, and they mostly have sex much later than lower ses kids, many of whom have nothing but strs, producing children! in their 50’s have no practical use for a man, unless they are desperate/destitute. unfortunately, this search produced predominantly sugar daddies/sugar babies websites. he stayed with me recently while visiting hebrew college here and he recounted this story. the man i married at twenty was a brilliant, morbid, handsome, abnormal creature with magnificent eyes and very white teeth and no particular appetite at mealtime.” the guy i was into ended up leaving to go to another birthday party in a rush taken by his other friend without taking my number, which i was a bit disappointed by. on top of that, her language and concerns (sloppy seconds, thinking he would brag about going to second base) would suggest that she is, at best, emotionally stunted in this area and, at worst, full of real hang ups. you’re a hot young woman who can’t make rent in a studio apartment and puts a premium on having clothes, shoes, expensive purses, and travel to exotic locales, sleeping with ron perelman probably looks like a dream scenario. he has a beer belly, his hair is all white, he’s not packing brad pitt chiseled looks and he works as a carpenter.@detideti, the repulsiveness of perelman is in his character (or lack thereof, rather). would have been up for having another family with the right man but men were too wrapped up in what they wanted and were frankly control freaks. there are probably many 45 to 60-yr-old men out there who would appreciate all of those things. a woman should be able to go on dates with a man and decide there is no match – not for sex or a relationship.…takes two to tango…first look at “yourself” in the mirror…just cliches…they say…i was married to my first wife for 17 1/2 years…she always thought grass was greener on the other side…after i left, she went on to relationship after relationship, married and divorced twice more…i feel sorry for her…forever searching…never finding…i was married once…maybe enough for me….: “the manosphere is so toxic that my husband asked me specifically to stop reading it”i had to stop reading them because i was allowing it to affect how i viewed my husband. participants also indicated that they want a woman who is able to take care of herself, which is somewhat of a reversal from the macho old world attitudes of just a generation or two ago. because i am trying to live this, and see myself falling short all the time. many have benefited from divorce and/or death (benefits) from the departure, in one way or another, of their first or even second husbands. it took five years for me to claw up to my managerial position at work after college.”restrictedness in many areas is coupled with moral anger against unrestricted types.”how can we appropriately argue with charlotte over semantics if we can’t project things onto her that she never actually said and didn’t actually mean? i already have 2 male best friends(my ex “illegal” husband and my ex boyfriend/roommate) so don’t need another of those but you can never have too many friends. i like to do many activities , dancing ,hiking, hiking ,kayaking fine dining , and skiing . he came home and told his wife one day that he was in love with a man and wanted a divorce. i don’t actually believe his walking around the room was checking out other women. to wit, ron perelman with ellen barkin:The genetics thing is rather interesting, hmm. and, surely, you must understand that it’s weird that she thinks he would brag to his friends (who she barely knows) about taking her top off.@susanlive nearby for the moment and my roots are from this area. after two months, the woman at work asks to get off the project.. finally, while you may find a bit of gray in the sideburns sexy, keep in mind that a man’s age will affect his parenting style. this certainly keeps many of us good men single since trying to meet a good woman that can accept us for who we really are really makes it very tough for us men right now since many of us are not single by choice.”not being a smart ass, but why do you believe this to be true? a woman or man doesn’t want to gross out their spouse, they just have to maintain their health. in addition, you’ll find not only “never marrieds” in those age brackets, but divorced guys as well.@jrd“i always shake my head when i see or hear a woman identify herself as “independent”.’m a sci-fi fan and was by nature an optimist about humanity…slipping a bit nowadays. locking him down at his physical peak is the optimal female strategy, as this takes him off the market before his full mmv has been realized, and also while he is closest to the female ideal of 3. the story say how invested roissy, i mean, the father is in his daughter’s well being? his answer was “there are 6 billion people in the world. this is not a modern notion – it has been true ever since people began marrying for love. problem is that this results in somebody’s heart being smashed. as he said, women and sex are easy and he doesn’t want to work at it with any woman; he sees no need to, and in nyc, no woman is special enough to make it worthwhile–there is always another one to give him exactly what he wants/needs. almost certainly over-diagnosed at this point (you”” had mania plus hallucinations, so this is not directed at you). i tend to forget that people lie for reasons like this.)she wants a susan-style ltr (“at-will” monogamy until further notice, easy unilateral exit, no required consideration of the other person’s feelings). however, the woman’s “bride price” goes down if she’s not a virgin when she does marry. he may not have ovaries that stop working but he and men of his age (56) go thru physical changes too, and that change is no more testosterone. 😎ps: this was my dress:@j“i believe the term of art in this situation is “negress.” at this point, she sounds about as fun as a wet mop.” and, surely, you must understand that it’s weird that she thinks he would brag to his friends (who she barely knows) about taking her top off. i bet his wives won’t put out for him. quite like involuntary romantic ocd *before* you even date the person (give me my mind back you stupid ocd! i think this is why men my age look southward in the dating age. but you have never felt this degree of longing before, for any woman., this is what a relationship-oriented man could think about her — even in the face of a really smooth and good looking guy who has bedded lots of hot women, she doesn’t give up her requirement for emotional connection before being able to have sex. susan said earlier, she just wasted an afternoon on semantics. i’m getting the feeling that being a high need baby is something common that was not recognized for a while i’m almost positive i was one according to mommy’s tales of my babyhood and i think hubby was one he was supposed colicky and cried for hours too, but my mil was not a very touchy feely person and hubby needs human touch for comforting a lot, like is pretty much the only thing i can do when he is upset hold him and touch him. susan is going to report a bug:I guess that the ‘comment number to go to’ to ‘page number’ mapping is calculated on that comment’s position in the visible list, when it should be on its position in the overall list (vis + invis comments counted). yeah, but it puts him on the spot and you read his immediate reaction to figure out what’s up. the woman will then assume they are in a relationship, but they’re really not.@intj“did meet this girl during astronomy study group but turned out she had a boyfriend.…many men, i think, wake up one day and realize they didn’t really choose to be a bachelor, and that it might be too late to have a family. 😉but srsly, this was a relationship that developed over a period of about 7 years, and he was a mentor to me. hus from the time we got together – i knew i wanted to have his babies – but if he had had doubts, i would have refused marriage. this last item represents a significant opportunity for women in their early 20s, who are near their own reproductive peak. i literally folded in defeat at the sigh tof his comforting the kid and said “as pissed as i am at you right now, you’re still jaysson’s father. because i started working at a young age, this company trusts me to do this even though i’m quite young. the more i do this, the more people will want to be around you and the more you will like yourself. i exercise 2 hours a day; running, x-country skiing, biking, and am in better health than many 35 year olds. is protecting herself emotionally, which is an important survival skill for a woman in nyc!@tedd:“jp – man, if i had a million dollars i wouldn’t be on here, but if you think you can get blood from a turnip, knock yourself out. since my college pals are still in that “senior yeaaaaar man” stage., jackie, tons of guys go whiteknighting thinking that this is the path to success and then become crestfallen when they see the girl with the guy in that shitty band. can’t tell you how many people referred to me as “gringa” in a complimentary way when i studied in mexico. you have the advantage of already knowing women this age – they are in your social circle. been in a top end wow guild for awhile (as in, top 50 in the us for progression) the amount of social maneuvering involved for the best loot and raid spots puts most corporations to shame.@j:“that may be pretty descriptive of the greek scene, but outside that scene i don’t think most girls date two guys and have have some romantic contact with two others in three weeks. 🙁incidentally, this is one of the guys she thinks might be gay. typically mid life women who dump the husband have a good career and have already been taking care of the family in both domestic and financial ways – they are tired of raising their husband too who acts like an overgrown kid, so yes – 2/3 of divorced are initiated by women..jackie nails it when she says of you:“yet, so many of your posts are crabbing about how bad things are. maybe i was just oblivious, but when i was married in my late twenties, i don’t recall receiving unsolicited adoring attention from women in their early twenties. this is why teh wimminz is beyotches and can’t be trusted! my husband did run off with another woman two decades ago; didn’t want to be a father anymore, he said.@loklandi said dtf – the woman who is down to f*ck now. 😛 the only people i can “hang around” with are the ones i have some deep connection with, be it friendship or romantic. would like to find a sane man to share my life and home with. recently met a guy at a very nice and lavish birthday party of a friend of my cousin’s who was 27, and my roommate, who is 23, met his friend who was almost 30. i have heard this exact story literally dozens of times. that is, what are you offering that a man would want, not the romcom version of it. you don’t want any man — you want a man who will love, cherish and embrace you through menopause. that, my friend, is cause in most men by age-related andropause. and a woman deserves to have a husband who sees her as a hot, younger chick, and not someone who he may want to “trade in”. the median male marriage age is 28, then by definition 50% of men have done exactly this. is more risk for the older woman beyond 30 to show any waffling. since i began reading in the ‘sphere, i will occasionally slip in a manosphere trope like, “would you like me better if i were more submissive? while i certainly do respect and appreciate his ability to do that, i wouldn’t say that he dominates me. don’t see women who are not skinny being treated just as a normal person, though i’d like to hear other people’s thoughts on this. because people don’t want to get married before their late 20s. though susan apparently doesn’t think this of her husband, she is certainly giving voice to those who do. but i bet i could have managed a decade, perhaps even a little more”.”this was the farthest from what i was trying to say when i said guys only date for two reasons.”this i agree with, if you’re limiting your comments to ron perelman. i’m enjoying living alone now, but one day i want to have someone to share my life with…someone intelligent, sweet, fun, silly, romantic, and open to love. it goes strictly against deti’s lectures last week – perhaps you didn’t agree with him about a woman following her husband and putting his career first? not the vibe, not his friend rushing him to leave, not what chuck said about his interest in you.@ intj:did meet this girl during astronomy study group but turned out she had a boyfriend.

Dating a single man in his 40s

despite her amusement with the man’s qiana (tm) shirt–looked like silk , but was actually polyester! again, this goes back to my point about women putting more priority on marriage and family before they start a career. i never imagined being the sole support and then watching my then mate go behind my back with his mommy and steal from me! many guys in their early 20s are not ready, but some clearly are – intj and cooper are two great examples. zach and this girl are not good fits, so i think they should probably part ways. this is very unattractive and when years of bad habits are on the outside we know years of mental problems are are the inside.@susan:“this is what happens to restricted girls who join sororities. on what i am reading, this girl is not communicating her interest at all. that actually piqued his interest instead of turning him off, as he prefers a more restricted nature.@jrd:me: when i was 18, i did not feel mature enough to be dating a man in his upper 20s or 30s.>> “one of my upcoming posts is about the book the technique of the love affair, written in 1928 by a gentlewoman. about that skinny emo nathan hardin– his arms were like pencils? i got banned last year from telling the truth about islam on manboobz and then this year on the same site for telling the truth about christianity and judaism. i can’t promise i’d take the “higher” path in the eyes of humanity, but my solution would work.@jackie 1136+1this is great advice for most people that have an unrealistically negative view of themselves, and good advice for most normal people too. balancing that with having an intimate and sexual connection with a man hasn’t been too hard, at least so far. many men that i have met are like old dogs who don’t want to get off of the porch. my grandmother dealt with his grumpiness and whatnot because of it, and my mother constantly used him as an example of what not to be when i grew up. the record, perelman and barkin had a pre-nup which stipulated that after a certain date she would be eligible to receive some rather large chunk of his fortune in the event of divorce.@lokland:“also, how do i unsubscribe myself to this thread? there are many ways to build a fulfilling life that does not involve a romantic partner.”it’s the manner of the presentation that seems immature/weird, not necessarily the restrictedness being conveyed. don’t understand the whole waiting until a man is financially stable before entering relationships. not permanently, just to try it on to see what it feels like?@emily:” my experience is that the guy will stay in the bad ltr, but only until he finds his next jumpoff girl, so as to not interrupt the steady sex supply.’re all aware at this age about health and the importance of staying active… who wants to zone out on tv when there’s active things to do together that enhance the relationship? i do hope, though, that this young woman starts to hang with a more restricted crowd, and that if zach is frustrated with her, he should move along. this is true for men – it is essential to filter out poor prospects.@susan:“i know you feel this way, you say this a lot, but this has not been my experience. so, because a woman “matures” into wanting a beta provider, it is no longer considered “bait and switch”.” acquiring a bride through intercourse wasn’t the most socially acceptable way to do so, but no man got away with triffling with the womenfolk. texan, 37that sounds like a term invented by a woman projecting. know this is a blog for college students but i found it helpful and interesting when i broke off my engagement to my fiance when i was 31, and was back in the dating game, which i hadn’t done since i was 25. this wasn’t a response to a shit test or anything.”i’ve only had four total romantic contacts in my entire life. women who are my peers (or reasonably so), don’t need a man.”except that this violates the moral prohibition against lying, so the appropriate thing to do is to tell the truth if asked. and this perceived “toxicity” is part of it, i think. top of that, her language and concerns (sloppy seconds, thinking he would brag about going to second base) would suggest that she is, at best, emotionally stunted in this area and, at worst, full of real hang ups.(i didn’t have this issue, i once spent 3 hours solving an incredibly complex inheritance problem from a couple years forward, while in a biology study group studying for an exam that evening. and i for one am not that woman and will be leary of that kind of boy for the rest of my life! sexual desire increases, and a woman who is not attracted to her partner will fantasize about extra-pair sex.” the men i regard as alpha are much different than many of the definitions i’ve seen. there’s the whole possibility that i might never have existed if my parents had thought the same thing (though i was born in the ’80s, probably before this stuff was available… mwahaha you can’t get rid of me) but i’ve always sort of had the thought that just because a particular sperm/egg combo never becomes a full grown baby doesn’t mean that soul won’t be born as another sperm/egg combo. namalt of course, but i’ve seen this situation play out quite a few times. if a game-aware decent to high earning college educated professional is no longer good enough to secure an attractive woman than this society is well and truly lost. a guy like ron perelman, whom i would regard as average looking for his age, will always have options that a less wealthy man will not. true, some are hucksters, seeking green cards or citizenship, but a good many are not. i think there’s a “gamer stereotype” that gets passed around among people who don’t know very many gamers personally. don’t know about the former but the later is available — but it will cost you.”it’s very counterintuitive to me that you would need to stand up to somebody in a relationship, since a relationship implies that you give the person what they ask for whenever they ask for it (and you are really supposed to be doing this for everyone, based on my understanding of morality that i absorbed growing up, meaning turn the other cheek, give to those who ask, etc.@ zachobviously charles manson is an extreme example, but it’s absolutely true. this whole thing and other pages/sites like it, just confirms me committing suicide. the labels on the y axis and the circles make it look like the chart is based off real data, but it’s just based on his hunch. could probably insert some bullshit about how my mother never hugged me here and that caused this over sensitivity but who knows. had a few year relationship with a woman who was approaching 60. i don’t generally rely on my “romantic” relationships for this, although i certainly enjoy my wife’s company and conversations. every divorced man out there has an ex wife who has said things like this about him.”well, you’ve managed to royally piss off the mras, puas, internet feminazis, and reddit mangina dorks. woulda thunk the manbooz commentariat are a bunch of abrahamic religious zealots? look, once we got to see how talented ld was with her work on girls, i don’t think a single woman has made an unkind remark about her (ld) looks.’m also pointing out that a sizable number of the men in the 80%, the betas, deltas and gammas, and the betas susan says she wants women to meet, date and marry, are going to resemble perelman physically (short, fat and physically unattractivewhat is the basis for this claim? i look from mid-thirties to late thirties — i am late 50’s in reality. will say this: wikipedia lists a birthdate of april 1954 for her. unfortunately, i am not sure how many women he has being able to trust in his life. this:“, okay, so what tangible results do you have to show for your efforts? is the total alpha who isn’t used to being as cunning (as opposed to ruthless) and so once he stops being true to his alpha nature he fucks up way too much and dies because of it. is fun to think about, but if i chalked up my entire relationship to fate, i’d have to devalue the challenge of two years of long distance, the semester abroad with limited contact, the family controversy from last year, and my manic episode/subsequent hospitalization and grad school dropout. he understands me better than any human can, and i fully believe that because he understands me, he will accept me as well.“i am not running anyone except ron perelman down, whom i consider to be a bad man. the time you get into your 40s, if you have the misfortune to find yourself in the dating pool, let me just tell you: it's a shit show. article was interesting to me because i’m a 53 yo twice-divorced woman and i’m trying to figure out just what type of relationship i want.@saywhaatunfortunately, unless calibrated against the woman’s menstrual cycles, that doesn’t mean anything. didn’t know it could even last that long… this is a good surprise for me. to be good to each other, time is flying by and is so precious at this point. she’s been riding the alpha cock carousel, has racked up a high number of sexual partners, but now is going to find some sap who will pay her bills and not ask too many questions, and marry him pronto.”susan, i was just reading a book last night that talked about this! immediately after the performance my tendency is to find a way to disappear back into the shadows again as quickly as possible. now, if you couple that with the fact that she might have just been making a joke about him telling his friends (i. i have found myself meeting really cool fun people as of late, so at least i’m having a much better time as of late. as a fifty something single man the women seem interested in tying the knot – not me. to a parent like that, you are an angel temporarily disguised in human form.’ve heard male commenters, particularly those seeking involvements with younger women, at roissy and elsewhere in the ‘sphere quote this maxim seriously., i promise you that i have never once on this site posted how i truly and honestly feel without some major pre-filtering. i just think it must have been hard to go from gabriel byrne to perelman.”a young guy, in fact no man, can ever win against “better.’the inability to maintain this state will result in being placed in the slut latter or being ignored completely cause you aren’t willing to climb the damn ladder. hell, i couldn’t even reliably tell you what women found attractive in me based on what i know now, so how would i have ever truly known if a woman was very attracted for sure? is it with men, when i was younger no one wanted anything serious because i was divorced with children, by the time i was in my 30s no one wanted a serious relationship then either because i was a promo model and they didn’t like other men looking at me (the exception being creeps who didnt care about me they just wanted a trophy wife or those who wanted “good breeding stock”), now my kids are grown and i have my own business no one wants anything serious because i’m “too old”. it has far more to do with maturity than actual age, but i fear maturity is coming later in life these days.@intjomg, j will probably have a good concrete suggestion for dealing with your friend, but if you think he is really contemplating suicide i think you should alert his loved ones and urge him to talk to someone asap. here’s to many more independent and fulfilling years ahead! it seems i was just completely unaware that there were different “types” of women in this regard. ive seen men @ late 70`s that you would guess to be @ 60, and some men at 65 look and act 78. they often get played freshman year once, get even more cautious, and promptly become invisible to the frats for the remainder of their college years. in the army a sergeant doesn’t argue with a general, even though i’m sure he may privately wonder what is going on in his head.”best part about growing up around the great lakes,@ passer_byat this point, i guess the only thing i can say is i’m glad to have been of service. but it makes sense that a younger woman may have a more flexible and expansive set of “something else” needs/desires than those of a woman of equal age and so many men target accordingly. deti november 27, 2012 at 2:37 pm hope: i’m not here to gain points with the manosphere.”believe it or not their are ways to do this which involve a smile and saying not yet that convey both modest/cuteness and sexual desire simultaneously. the average 50 year old just doesn’t have what it takes to keep that attraction, no matter how many times a week he lifts weights, lol.@madisonkci don’t understand the whole waiting until a man is financially stable before entering relationships. i have seen susan advocate for all kinds of guys, many of whom are nowhere near “conventional” hotness.@charlotte (also a little @susan)just finished a major project at work, and the rest of my afternoon looks pretty free, so this may turn into a bit of a russian novel. when a man is finally ready to settle down, he’ll take the best woman his smv can barter for and make it work… the way it’s always been, from aristotle to today.”no, this was definitely the thinking with the people i was with in college (state school) the late 1990’s.”a prophet is not without honor, except in his own land. there was the guy (and his son) who came out gay and broke up the family. you agree that the chances he will succeed with them are slim, because, well, this does not matter what he thinks he is and indeed it does not matter whether he indeed is more valuable when he was 28, because he won’t get much chances to show that to girls in the range he desires?+1and regarding the high fashion clothing being intimidating, this can be the case.)and look, once we got to see how talented ld was with her work on girls, i don’t think a single woman has made an unkind remark about her (ld) looks. i bet his wives won’t put out for him. in america, prior to about 1950, it was possible to sue and/or jail a man for “breech of promise” in the circumstances described in the article you linked. women who believe this are not only pathetic, they are going to be sorely disappointed. in this post i refer to the quality guys who date numerous women and exit quickly when they perceive it’s not a match. the median age at marriage for a college educated woman is 30. for the girls here saying they’d never date older guys because of this and that. think this girl’s mistake was to get herself into situations like that in the first place, which have a high probability of making her uncomfortable. also had a high school classmate who did kill himself freshman year of college. i turn this down more than once because i don’t believe in sex without love and commitment. i used the word boor to describe him as a “rude, ill-mannered person. scheming in ways to shirk his responsibility of helping pay our mortgage and any other bills! for a 10+ year age gap, it is a big deal to a female in her late teens to mid-twenties…not so big a problem from that point on. i’ve randomly picked up a guitar or sat down at a random piano and just started playing so many times in mixed/unknown company that i truly couldn’t count if i wanted to. it’s very difficult for kids – many try to have a ldr, but that’s very stressful and guys tend to balk because then it’s the commitment with hardly any sex. i have no idea how they made a living, but they were the dudes who populated the singles bars. if a modern ltr can end “for any reason”, then a woman gaining 10 pounds counts. his orders may not always make sense to me, but i can still carry them. however, studies have shown that they seek this in their partner, provided there is sexual attraction there to begin with. or, as the ‘sphere likes to say: ignore what a woman says and watch what she does. it’s good to be understood 🙂i wonder though if zach wants to have his cake and eat it too. assortative mating arises even though there are no complementarities between the skills of the two members of the couple, due to the public good aspect of children’s human capital, which generates increasing returns to skills in the household. if a significant number of women around 20-25 are going for older men it stands to reason that many young men are keeping company with rosy palm and her five hairy friends (high school girls being off limits and all that).’s easy to forget about this kind of thing when you are young and seemingly invincible.. yeah, susan, that woman is insane, but if what she says is true, i just lost all respect for mark manson.@ passer_bycrap, now i have to rush home quicky and have my wife take care of this raging hard on you just me. i was in college and started working at this office, i described a female coworker to a female friend of mine as being “normal”. i’m a firm believe in “anything goes within a committed relationship” and a woman that conservative about her sexuality would be very difficult to make comfortable enough to do some of the stuff i’m interested in these days. she enjoyed living in her “big city/sophisticated” environment, and liked the excitement of all the men she was dating. in fact most of them won’t look even as good as perelman does. enough, the son emailed me a couple of years ago, having found hus on his own, asking me if i was his old next door neighbor. a vast majority of people (men and women) cannot even break even in this society so they cannot hoard what they do not have. it goes without saying that you’ll need to be a quality woman worthy of commitment. at this point he is sizing me up as his wife? you can really only get away with this if you're george clooney.. lots of good paying jobs with cheaper rents in nice, safe towns), or would you continue to try to make it happen in manhattan? then, about 6 months ago, at the suggestion of a friend, i put my profile on a dating site, clearly stating that i was not looking for a man to complete me, but rather a companion to spend some time with. if even restricted woman “dip their toes” into the unrestricted pool on occasion, then the terms are practically useless other than to predict someone’s general disposition. my advice to a sorority girl in this position (which i have given) is to take a step back from the sorority’s social scene, dress like a non-greek, and get involved in other campus activities. and she though my first “performance” issues were due to having to use condoms. think this could cause both zach and her to pigeon hole each other into opposite corner – he keeps advancing, thus she keeps withdrawing. the son of a bitch cheated on and then later dumped laura ingalls. either she isn’t confident in her body, or her body was naturally reacting in a frightened/reserved manner in front of zach. after two months, the woman at work asks to get off the project.@detido you realize that a large number of ordinary average men in their 30s to their 50s are going to resemble this man (balding, paunchy, out of shape)? i have no desire to work to support her lifestyle of leisure while i will receive nothing from it after he pays for his ex and kids that he created. she said she has absolutely no idea i had romantic intensions. this is the 40-something guy who has totally adjusted to living alone. earlier up thread someone, i forget who, spoke about a 19 year old who found it enjoyable to be a stay-at-home girlfriend to an older man. i guess you could go so far as to say that her outburst was a shit-test to find out what exactly zach is thinking about her, and what are his ultimate intentions.“the bible also assumes that a man acquires a wife through intercourse., girls who want to get married off in the near future should probably focus on older guys (late 20s-early 30s). i feel like on old cartoons when a guy feels like a jerk and his head turns into a big heel or a donkey. my error was that i didn’t understand doing so was damned hard for many/most people. perhaps that’s why so much of this went right over my head, i wasn’t just “tricked” by the romance myth, i think i’m wired to actually like most of it as well….) who were denied counselling and pretty much told to fuck off and man up.”yes, but then the fun ends a few years and the woman/man falls out of love and wanders off. observations of the polar opposite of susan’s in this regard. again, this would be a guy who at oldest is 25, not a guy who is 30 and is either a guaranteed player or either really looking to settle down and get married asap. it goes strictly against deti’s lectures last week – perhaps you didn’t agree with him about a woman following her husband and putting his career first? to mention the fact that his compliment is backhanded and patronizing. hopefully future generations will get rid of this progressive meaningless nightmare we live in. and i have to add, being divorced is not a badge of honor. totally bizarre concept – a parent jealous of his own new born seed.: this ties in with some of what i felt when i was that age, and it reminds me of something we spoke of earlier, of being teenagers and having grown men hit on us. i know this isn’t rocket science, but even a simple concept like gravity can be difficult to understand if you’ve never been taught about it., if you're in your 50s, single and dating (and feeling like you're not getting anywhere), consider this a little friendly feedback from the ladies. we had a lot in common and he was not a douchebag (i mean other than his need to play “the game”). the truth is that without these mores, many men would have sex with females who are not yet adults. this leaves women searching for those not-so-loathsome male souls who have enough money to finance their own health care and also don’t need their money to buy their latest post-middle age toy. (this was back in college, and jlo was a star).)anyway, to your point… i don’t believe she ever had any intention of being a “kept woman”. i was having a pleasant conversation with this one foreign student, there was some flirting happening between us, when this dude in his 70’s stands there looking at me talking to the girl(creepy as hell) and when i went to my seat the guy goes up to her, sits next to her and starts chatting her up. he liked her enough that he was happy to be exclusive and give it a shot, but when his feelings didn’t grow he ended it. marc might have more of a chance with the women once his smv begins to rise with age and wisdom. he has finally found an area of interest in his major. the fratty guy hits on the freshman, and his buddy tells her he is the real deal, would love a girlfriend, asks if she is attracted, etc. the labels on the y axis and the circles make it look like the chart is based off real data, but it’s just based on his hunch. it isn’t any more a feature of this smp than any previous one.

What not to do when your dating a guy

Dating a man in his late 40s

being said, as much as i am attracted to a woman with this personality type, i’m with zach on the sexual repression angle. not that women weren’t interested, but they tended to be very late ‘20s, early ‘30s types (and they weren’t coming around bringing me little treats and stuff).‘ohh i met this girl, she’s just a touch prettier, tits are a touch larger etc. as a male of the age demographic in question (not that i am dating or trying to date), i hear more from women that they have no use for a man in their lives than i do one seeking a partner. i realize no woman is likely to pursue me and be able to pass my tests.” but, ok, in my experience of my divorced friends, yes, all of us are interested in love again, and many of us have found it, sometimes several times. do think that women dating guys in their 30s need to be very careful to make sure this is not the case – he should have a history of ltrs rather than strictly strs…. this would explain why, back when their was assortative mating and most didn’t have much sex outside of wedlock, women appeared to have a sexual peak after 30., i am not sure if this is related, but i was really surprised when the phrase “people of color” became a politically correct phrasing because it reminded me so much of “colored people”. you’ll need to be extra vigilant to filter out cads who have no intentions of committing to anyone, but you’ll also find this to be a group of men who are more financially secure, socially adept, well-rounded intellectually and emotionally stable. had a lot of chances to meet younger guys because they thought i was in my late 30’s, they all surprised when i told them my age. i also say things like “can’t wait to have you all to myself this weekend” when we have a trip planned or something.? smhconcerning the original topic… well, depending on the man i guess it wouldn’t hurt to try. seriously though, i do tend to relate to judiasm better than anything christian. being single in my mid 50’s, great income, lots of fun to be around, non-abusive, and very social causes many friends young and old to point out my singleness. one of those things that isn’t fun but can be managed. were plenty of civilized societies that didn’t practice this.“and speaking as someone who fell hard for a guy, only to discover later that he lied about me giving him a blowjob at a party, no,”well, if you’d just given him the god damn blowjob he wouldn’t have had to lie, now, would he? when i actually managed to get her to take a piece of clothing off , after we were done making out (which is all it was), she used her arms to cover herself up as we were watching tv. because i was so busy interning and getting my career together in college, the whole college scene wasn’t so much my thing and i didn’t see many of the guys i went to school in a romantic light. she took a huge risk falling for him before he actually left the other woman. one point, he stood over me and placed his hand on the small part of my back while whispering in my ear. this would have saved me a ton of emotional turmoil. they want to earn that show of emotion, and too many words aren’t all that helpful. it just so happens that they’ve noticed that this result comes more often if they assume a dominant position and demand submissiveness. it takes time to blossom, and for the people in the relationship to realize that they see this person becoming a part of their life and putting more effort into the relationship. he liked her enough that he was happy to be exclusive and give it a shot, but when his feelings didn’t grow he ended it.: “most societies have strict rules or norms around age differences, and also when a woman is fair game for seduction. now that he has run off with the secretary his ex will live in poverty after the alimony runs dry. pull your head out, smell what the man is cooking, and look out the window. was only after this fiasco ended that i realized how horrible it was to do to someone. you want a woman to marry you because she’d been in an ltr with you, even though her attraction for you had begun to wane in recent months, and a handsome guy at work was tempting her with regular invitations? i won’t say marriage, because at this point i’m not 100% sure i know what marriage actually is today. understand that this stings women reading this, but as you can imagine the internet favors women’s advice and therefore men are pigeonholed exactly the same way, so get over it. you troll here, at rollo’s and and at manboobz? when i was 18, i did not feel mature enough to be dating a man in his upper 20s or 30s. what point did you realize that you had woven the perfect web of intrigue with which to catch and trap this poor unsuspecting chap? he just might come around and apologize for bailing due to his big power-point presentation to even busier businesspeople. we just don’t see or hear about them because it is death as a young man to openly identify oneself as a sexual loser. the man went out to two marriages and a couple of kids out of wedlock. you can’t stamp this out in me unless you can completely unmake me and reform me into something else.”asking whether he’d tell his friends he went to second base means she inquiring about whether he’d brag about getting to touch her breast. i work too much because i have very little money- was divorced from a crazy husband 11 years ago who destroyed me financially- not that there was very much, but what little there was gone and he ran up debts behind my back that made the economics even worse. had never thought of addressing the suicide issue in such a manner before. i suppose this might be due to the weirdness of the east bay. he develops a chronic illness i will do what i can to alleviate his pain and discomfort–taking on all financial responsibilities and household responsibilities myself if necessary. because if everyone just controlled themselves a little bit more, this would never be a problem. as don quixote’s delusional chivalric ideals bump up against the humdrum of reality and the views of his more earth-bound companion, sancho panza. this is why i feel the need to see the wife and kids often., the manosphere is so toxic that my husband asked me specifically to stop reading it in the first year that we were together. what’s worth to guys like intj, cooper, etc– i’m 21 and i definitely cannot see myself with a guy in his 30s+. think when i was younger i had this perception that my life would be over once i hit 40 and the rest was a slow slide into oblivion. regardless of his love for his wife, we all know rob wants/deserves a hot, younger girl. there’s the whole possibility that i might never have existed if my parents had thought the same thing (though i was born in the ’80s, probably before this stuff was available… mwahaha you can’t get rid of me) but i’ve always sort of had the thought that just because a particular sperm/egg combo never becomes a full grown baby doesn’t mean that soul won’t be born as another sperm/egg combo. but as long as he keeps adjusting the age of his women up to compensate his aging, dating will become easier and easier. considering how many men here have denigrated gold-diggers, i’m surprised by the approval of it — i guess it’s groovy if you’re really hot. a side note, 30 y/o guys who have their shit together and who are not dbags and who are as charming as you claim this guy was don’t need guys to wing for each other that hard. if i could meet a woman who was nice to me, i’d consider marrying her. i have many female friends, but i wouldn’t want to live with any of them.) if she were with a man who truly loved her.’m just getting a little tired of being painted to look like a woman hater of some sort., don’t walk, away from any man who wants to lock it down right away., here’s the question: you just found out that she is pregnant with his baby and she is due about 9 months after he proposed…basically, they started fucking like bunnies, without protection, right after he proposed. 🙂 it’s interesting: someone told me, recently, that my soul had specifically chosen this path to learn how to heal myself and others. i’m quite romantic but am also an introvert and shy in big groups. run, don’t walk, away from any man who wants to lock it down right away. it sucks at times to feel lonely and wish you had a man at your side, but life is too short to be anything but happy with yourself and your life. when we see a guy in his 30s, we assume he could obviously be married right now if he wanted, so he must be choosing to play the field indefinitely. it just so happens that they’ve noticed that this result comes more often if they assume a dominant position and demand submissiveness. i will say, re: the later, is that he has a reputation for being a gigantic a-hole. sexual conservatism was not lauded…me: in retrospect, a friend from college fit into this category…. deti does this constantly – he accuses, and then when i ask him to explain, he resorts to “well, that’s what feminists do to men. manosphere is so toxic that my husband asked me specifically to stop reading it in the first year that we were togetherhope, do you know the scene in the godfather where kay and michael are leaving the movie theater and kay asks michael if he would like her better if she were a nun?, i have mentioned this before, which means that you may have already answered it, but, i can only remember hearing that 1/2 * man’s age + 7 rule once when i was a child, and i remember it was from someone who was laughing about it (oh, isn’t that awful…that kind of thing). a 50 yo in good shape can not compete with a 28 yo male in his prime based on physical smv. “they’ll look for emotional support with a woman and she’ll think, ‘oh, he must like me,” and often times, he just needs the emotional support. condoning his barbaric way of life but if he had stuck to that then none of that would have happened. i agree with tasmin that the whole wing-man thing, and the buddy asking if you are interested, seems pretty juvenile. primary reason that women tend to date older, i feel, is that for a man to achieve mastery in a given skill or profession it takes 10,000 hours/5 years, as it has been said. for the reasons why she is like this, zach shouldn’t care. my point is, this story becomes a lot more interesting if he has already implied, if only slightly, that marriage is likely in their future. and women leave college at 22-23, so that means the man will be 28 before he’s become truly proficient in a non-trivial skill learned there – not just competent, proficient.“and speaking as someone who fell hard for a guy, only to discover later that he lied about me giving him a blowjob at a party, no, i don’t think it’s fucking immature to wonder how a guy might act once you’re out of sight. this is the first time in quite a while i’ve dated people my own age and i actually like we have first-hand experience with the same bands, the same music. not that i was dumb enough to pursue of any of this (other than perhaps a return eye fucking ;)). can you please explain to me what the actual difference is between a restricted and an unrestricted woman other than perhaps how high her n got? if i am not as interested as i feel they are, i would make it known far before it got even slightly escalated beyond that. don’t worry, not all finance guys are dbag frat boys just like not all fashion women are ditzy elitist materialistic hyper-consuming solipsistic entitled trust fund princesses with art history degrees from expensive ne private colleges with 60% acceptance rates. – “(“at-will” monogamy until further notice, easy unilateral exit, no required consideration of the other person’s feelings).@ susanomg, j will probably have a good concrete suggestion for dealing with your friend, but if you think he is really contemplating suicide i think you should alert his loved ones and urge him to talk to someone asap. december i am turning 33 and i find it depressing as hell that according to this blog, i’ve reached my peak and basically have nothing to offer to a quality guy who is looking to settle down. plus, since this is a blog for young women, i don’t see the point of highlighting what i see as bad male behavior. one can have a very full life without romantic partners (read bella depaulo) by choice, rather than letting one bad marital experience determine it. i mean, how many range rovers can one woman drive? but talking to you all about this is extraordinarily helpful!@ramble re: training: i suppose, but given i was in a full-time job with an extremely long commute (hour+ by car one way), and also in a mentally demanding career, with 10-11 hours of work + job, and 8 hours of sleep (extremely generous) that still leaves a solid five hours. not taking any non-stem classes this semester, so that cuts down on the interactions with girls.”so, ask yourself this: what do you think would happen if every guy who might approach you could read your post at #758?”i was trying to be funny based on the fact that this expisode was clearly unintentional and handled well on your part. that may be true for younger people, but that isn’t always the case at this age, she says.“cooper’s difficulties have been a direct result of flying loose and free with intimacy, trying to make a girl his gf after one night of hooking up. pretty ridiculous- never heard of a woman trying to upgrade in midlife to a husband who makes more money? person who chooses to play games reflects his/her inner world is not solid. i tried to explain that “gringo” is actually not an insult, but i guess it doesn’t translate well. a 36-year-old will pass on twice as many mutations to his child as a man of 20, and a 70-year-old eight times as many, stefánsson’s team estimates. don’t experience vaginal atrophy, permanent loss of libido, mood swings and stress incontinence the way women do at menopause. however, it should rule out the “fat and ugly” comments that many women’s posts on such topics seem to bring.”i can’t speak for the other guys, but i’ve never “dumped” a woman in my entire life. i hope he has what it takes to get the type of woman he wants. is a great example of a woman who is restricted/not promiscuous, and focused on studying rather than relationships in college. it just seems that a large number of woman have behaved “unrestricted” at some point in their lives regardless of their actual nature, yet i know plenty of men that have never acted “unrestricted” either by choice or circumstances. a man suffering from low-t experiences the same hormone-level triggered hot flashes that a woman experiences during menopause.“i’m wondering if the reason many of you seem to think that “getting to know someone” takes months is because you all just like too damn many people. this is probably the best evidence i’ve seen for the argument that restricteds should stick with restricteds, and likewise for unrestricteds. ”perhaps, but this was in response to you commenting on how many girls mature from liking “bad boys” to responsible, just like men mature from wanting to bang the dumb bleached blond bimbo to something else. me, tywin is pathetic, and his insanely dysfunctional descendants are more than proof of that. i don’t know if it will ever come to fruition, but i can’t help but be amused that at some point i came to the conclusion that this is hopeless, and i just want to bail. when women are doing the hunting, they can do the choosing – till then, it’s a man’s prerogative…men display and women select, so your results must determine your strategy. henry-type short story about a man who writes a pua blog on the science of seduction.’m going to keep score of how many marriages i know of where i’m “absolutely 100% certain* i know the sex of the person at fault for the divorce (and the reason). but calling such men fat and ugly, and how his wives wouldn’t put out for him and that’s why he keeps getting divorced, probably isn’t going to help attract many women to men like this. if a man said those things to my face irl, i might be compassionate regarding his frustrations and obvious pain, but the imagery sends up some red flags to me.: i dont think of you as a thin, sexy woman.”no, that’s how she feels about marrying an ugly but rich old man for his money when you’re not attracted to him. i literally folded in defeat at the sigh tof his comforting the kid and said “as pissed as i am at you right now, you’re still jaysson’s father. the age of the man isn’t necessarily mutually exclusive with the child being provided for, whether it’s through energy (younger dad) or resources (older dad). but a good family background is an attraction cue to me the same way lustrous hair or a good hip/waist ratio is to a man. there is a mid-life power shift at work to balance this out. you’d think a harvard law grad would at least be able to formulate a logical and well-thought out argument with a clear progression. not that there's anything wrong with a single dad, but this guy is really with kids. when i was in my 20s/30s i wouldn’t have looked twice at a middle aged man and have up until now been quite baffled by their apparent allure to young women. this last bit was to make the trans students in the group feel welcome. my mother was telling me how a relationship is not as bad as many older men make it look, like because average guys(like the woman’s boyfriend was) can get sex from women, even hot women. there has to be some kind of detente from one side or the other to resolve this. for example, nat turner and his supporters killed a lot of innocent people, and that was very wrong. there are many ways to express sexual interest without actually having sex, and no i don’t mean blowjobs. of my upcoming posts is about the book the technique of the love affair, written in 1928 by a gentlewoman. human beings are naturally motivated to assert their values; to think their values are best; and to be intolerant of people with opposite values. campaign against living miserably is a charity in the uk that attempts to highlight this issue for public discussion. of young guys don’t step up to the plate until they have a reason to do so. (i heard a noise late one night, freaked out and ended up setting a ton of traps incase someone did try to break in. used to work for this guy who lives down my street. amazes me how when a woman first startes dating a man, the men have no problem renting a house boat for a few weeks off the amalfi coast, or riding vespas through the south of france while staying at vineyards., well, i would say more about this, but i know that susan is tired of this particaulr hobby horse, so, i will leave it at that.@cooperyour comments in this thread make me realize that you are quite rigid about what you expect and how quickly. it was banned by british colonial law in 1829–1830 and survived in the native indian states until the late 1880s, when it was effectively eradicated, although extremely rare cases persisted into the early twentieth century.@tasminsure an older man *may* have the ability to attract younger women, but this is because he has elevated himself above the majority of other men, younger and older – largely in spite of his age not merely because of it, and he must continue to work at it. have been quite a few guys like that who had hell raising teens and 20s and then keep with, or settle down with a woman who can help keep them balanced. and clearly a woman who is younger than him is going to be just that, unless he is extremely good looking. i’m glad i’m not the only one that noticed this. i’m not going to discount how important they are to men, and my husband is a man. alone does not make a man more desirable, in fact men must work to both preserve their youth/health physically as well as work to establish those “something else’s”. i am down with this, and i’m down with susan’s goal. fact, it is somewhat ironic that as much as girls drive pop culture and as much as they desire taller men (say, 6′ 4″ to put a number on it) you do not see that many 6’4″ leading men.” norms vary by culture, but the french came up with the rule that a man should divide his age in half and add seven to get the youngest appropriate age he might date. bible also assumes that a man acquires a wife through intercourse. these men are saying these things, my husband is a man, therefore he must feel the same way. dunno, my brother has created an entire social world around gaming, and to this day he is far more social than i’ve ever been (and i’m the extrovert too! it felt wierd and scary, as though a man who was so much older was deliberately targeting me because he might have felt i was young and naive (vulnerable, but not in a good way) and not mature enough to negotiate a relationship with a man so much older and experienced.(look, some girls really do have beautiful eyes and smiles, and we get transfixed)lol…this makes me think of a little secret i have, but i’ll share…sometimes i browse craigslist m4w missed connections and click on the links that have the trains i ride, the areas i’m occasionally in, the wistfully-titled, or anything that is otherwise not obviously pervy. think there’s a “gamer stereotype” that gets passed around among people who don’t know very many gamers personally. i like whispering in a man’s ear, gently placing my hand on his thigh, tracing a man’s palm with my fingertips, speaking in a smoky seductive tone, and many other things. like many women, i raised my children, ran a household and worked as much then as i do now. is this the kind of ltrs i can expect my children to be stuck with until they reach 30? asked dating experts, valerie gibson, author of later dater: a guide for newly single women over 50, and ronnie ann ryan, the dating coach for women, about the six things they should know about men in their 50s. big changes with my kids grown and a new career you’d think now would have been a great time to finally meet someone since i had both the time and the room in my life for a new man but what’s happening instead is the same old crap in a different flavour.) yet is less fire-n-brimstone (and definitely much more erudite) than many –i’d say most– branches of christianity. woman voting has nothing to do with promiscuity that i can see., when you do this to somebody, you feel a lifetime of guilt. any case, my husband observed my unrestricted moments before we got together, and he had some of his own. you troll here, at rollo’s and and at manboobz?” every woman goes through menopause yet that doesn’t mean all of us have gone without a partner. realize this will be a very unpopular opinion, but i don’t understand why people will put off getting married because of a pregnancy. i was freaking out again over the “her job, his job, submit” thing again, but this i can do.”the problem is that this results in somebody’s heart being smashed. can see that i am an attractive woman; i believe most men would agree. this woman is also really bitchy, so pardon if i seem biased against her, it’s because i am. his other friend (a third guy) approached me and said “aren’t dan and chuck great? do not believe that most males would welcome this approach. some people in the (wo)manospheres need to realize is that life isn’t fair, that they are owed nothing, and that some people – when their high and unchanging standards are combined with their low smv – are destined to be alone forever. plunge in anyway on the small chance that you might find the one seems like it’s not worth the risk to you or the collateral damage to others. actor ex-bf was exactly like this, right down to the terrible relationship with his father. based upon what some of my female peers tell me who have been out there dating for years is that if you factor in the desire to have a reasonably healthy and energetic male in this age bracket the pickings do get slimmer. maybe it depends on location, but many of us know “if you meet them in the bar-leave them in the bar! this post i wanted to advise women to consider more men, and to deflate the prejudice against single guys in their 30s, which is hypocritical and unreasonable. replace father with grandfather, and this describes me pretty damn well, minus the drama. yes women go through menopause later but men also go through something and age all around too. i can’t imagine demanding a life experience with no heartbreak. i miss him dearly, but would like to find someone active and older to go see the world with before it is too late.

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last year i was visiting friends in boca and met a gentleman with a nice 40 foot cruiser–the man had not taken the boat out of harbor in three years. in any event i can’t count the number of times on a certain so-called christian man’s blog, where many of the male commenters said revolting things about women and their age and appearance and it went unchallenged by the blog host. the tables may turn at 30 in terms of male/female smv trajectory *potential*, but a man still has to run the table to reap the benefit. and the “something else to the table” has never been more difficult for a man to establish and maintain. for example, nat turner and his supporters killed a lot of innocent people, and that was very wrong. the 52 year old who wants a woman in her 20s should get out there and see what he’s got. if equality is not achieved, then why do they piss and moan about alimony, paying for their little shit factories that a man may not have even fathered and have a court system that defaults to catering women over men? most of them look horrible, many because they did physical labor for years, and this ages the body. i’m curious because i personally don’t know many (or any) guys that are overly emotional like you’ve described- it would seem intuitive that most men would be overly guarded about their emotions (and yes, i may be biased because that is how i am). there’s a strong correlation between whether a woman is interested in temporary-ltrs or marriage and whether she goes after guys her age or older guys. however, this seems odd when we are raised in a pc culture. for example, 68% say that at this stage in life they want fun and freedom; 54% say they are not interested in getting married anytime soon; 64% agree “there are so many bad marriages today it makes one question the value of marriage;” and 41% agree that “you can’t trust women to tell the truth about their past relationships. here, mark manson used deception to play erika awakening, which is totally not cool (though erika awakening does bear some responsibility for who she chose).”i think you have this right, just from my personal experience & observation. the good news is that most women are not looking at older guys – as i said in the op i have witnessed real resistance to this. i said this:while you may not want to focus exclusively on older guys, i recommend that this be one strategy in your portfolio.@ted dwell, reading about you being perceived as emotionless in most settings but being quite romantic at heart hits home to me. i’m really feeling like i’m missing out with all this game of thrones stuff. his daughter ends up being played by a cad who used the lessons directly from her dad’s blog. instead of trying to force things, i think that he should find a woman that feels comfortable moving at his speed., here’s the point:“the point is that a lot of women view in this way men who are not classically physically attractive. but his unrestricted background does not make him very patient in this regard, it seems to me. i want/need some way to release that, and traditionally i used my romantic relationships to do so. would any woman want to cover up great looking breasts? there was one point that even i was tempted to say, “hey, welmer, i can sympathize with the raw deal you got in family court, but this guy makes me want to ensure that all children come from anonymous sperm donors in the future! i wonder how you know that he wants to ditch his wife for a younger girl? i was divorced at 44 for the younger woman and children were not an issue. i’m also pointing out that this attitude, which susan has given voice to, is one of the primary reasons the manosphere exists. we all go through this process after a relationship breaks up of picking up the pieces of our emotional lives.’ve been divorced for 16 years, i am in my 50’s now, and for the first time since i divorced i truly feel i want to be married again.”this is what women think of their aging, not so physically attractive husbands. be adamant from the beginning that there are many things you value more than money. his “maturity” is not a plus unless it affords the woman something she can’t get from a guy her own age or a bit older. same thing with so many of the “alphas” who are touted by men here. my conversations with women usually end up with a lot of “respect” or “admiration” for a man who is willing to take on such responsibilities, but they quickly lose any romantic interest.“on top of that, her language and concerns (sloppy seconds, thinking he would brag about going to second base) would suggest that she is, at best, emotionally stunted in this area and, at worst, full of real hang ups. within two weeks of living with his parents his father moved out. but keep in mind, the ‘sphere tends to collect the “herb” type men after they’ve been burned, so perhaps many of them have indeed been in marriages where no or little attraction was ever present. fact, i was advised that this was the case, at which point i quickly terminated the relationship. i feel that i have made significant progress in that area now and feel i can finally present myself as an independent woman again in the dating field. i just think that – as i said as the beginning of this convo – that charlotte is open to something serious with the right person and will not be issuing warnings to men she’s attracted to by saying she just “wants to have fun.@rambleso, i guess my question is, outside of hus, is anyone actually incorporating this rule of thumb into their advice? perhaps that’s why so much of this went right over my head, i wasn’t just “tricked” by the romance myth, i think i’m wired to actually like most of it as well…i always thought i was the romantic type! believes — and i agree — that more people need to talk openly about this because all older women hear (and thus believe) is that older men are only looking for much younger women. grew up to the sweetest, most resilient and independent young man you’ve ever seen. only reason a man needs to worry about getting older is if he wants children.’s a common occurrence for me to meet a man that i am attracted to who obliterates that attraction with the things that he says., bact ot, if i were on my own at this age, i don’t think i would date down in age all that much.: this is what happens to restricted girls who join sororities. charlotte, as long as you go in with open eyes and don’t demand more than what you’re offering (when and if the feelings kick in) i see no problem. it’s a nice fantasy, but, as a woman who in her 50s, i can tell you that any affection i feel towards men in their 80s comes out of missing my dad. seriously, show me an example of this in tv or movies from the last 25 years where a man demands from his gf/wife that she lose weight and he is not shown to be an ass. of petraeus, i don’t understand the hating on his appearance. sometimes women do meet a guy outside, but then he’s generally out of his element if she wants to participate in her sorority’s social activities.😯 esco, what scriptural authority did they give for this reasoning? people could make snarky anonymous comments on-line, but the feminine imperitive in our country would never allow it to be publicly stated, while susan’s reaction to perelman is completely accepted in the mainstream., the “i also felt repelled as the tears streamed down his cheeks and fell from his cleft chin” woman feature is very useful in certain situations, like mine. but i doubt i will find ‘the right person’ at this point in my life…but who knows. a man 10 years older and you could be in for a 20+ year widowhood. the difference is, while you seem to concentrate on the “little things” that can be changed quickly to push things in the right direction, i’m more likely to say the whole thing is broke, should be scrapped, and started overi would love to see you formulate a strategy for that! young women are somewhat resistant to this idea, i have found., i did not mention his story because he was and is an odd guy. boys in this scenario was heavily skewed in one direction, from my large experience with board gaming of all sorts. should preface this by saying that i relate to people just fine, but prefer to show how i feel rather than say too much., kathy, did you come here just to demand explanations of me which you have no right to demand in the first place, or are you here to continue your vendetta against that certain christian blogger who repeatedly called you out on your silly claims and finally had had enough of you? kids (if you were even selfless or woman enough to have any! its far too easy to find layman’s (heh) examples of this dynamic to think it’s only about the rich and famous. in fact, many said they were not interesting in caretaking ever again — they’d been there and done that. those posts i read were just paragraphs upon paragraphs of verbal diarrhea spouting the same nonsense about mark postmasculine deserving his comeuppance. another way, i completely understand where anakin skywalker was coming from when he told padme that he would bring order and peace to his galaxy, because he wouldn’t tolerate anything less. given that fact, one might expect that the men, ages 30 to 34, in this survey sample. it’s pretty rare, in my opinion, for a man to age into a “silver fox”. don’t know if you saw it, but saywhaat linked to this study yesterday:ladies prefer thin over machomacho features such as a strong jaw and squinty eyes advertise that a guy possesses high testosterone, according to the immunocompetence handicap hypothesis.’m not sure that his naural physical condition is much better than that of the mother who gave him two sons and stuck with him through his drug issues. or should you end your relationship and explore a relationship with the woman at work? now can i sit in this woman’s presence and feel nothing. we will dance and drink and party, and then we will make out in his car for an hour before i head inside. major problem with relationships nowadays isn’t a man or woman thing. i liked his post on the mature man as well. i say this as a short, ugly, middle-aged, miserly and socially awkward individual who no woman of even average attractiveness has ever thought of as anything other than absolutely cringe-worthy, not some adonis wannabe who doesn’t understand how the other half lives on the other side of the smv tracks. yes, some might say i simply chose poorly, but i also see far too many men in the exact same spot as well, and i know zero couples where i would be okay taking the man’s place. the only reason ron perelman was able to pull ellen barkin (even when she was 46 and well past her prime) was because of his money. as a single professional woman who worked her way thru education and never had a penny handed to her, a man with poor decision making skills who chose someone to stay home and become vested in a pension plan from him is not attractive.’m just saying that his taming did lead to his downfall in the show. unfortunately, i’ve seen many parents take great pride in having a ladykiller son. the likelihood of this happening has little to do with the mindset. only thing to be pissed about is that susan is not a gold digger and his wife is. a woman or man doesn’t want to gross out their spouse, they just have to maintain their health. seems to me most women prefer you to be this way as a man anyway (and that’s not chest puffing, just an observation). tonight after i get dinner done (wife is working late tonight so i’m on kitchen duty) i’m going to pour a glass of wine and toast to future cooper!@tedd:“truth is, that isn’t very fair on whatever poor woman is with me at the moment, which is why i’m working on it. this sounds like some terrible virtual reality robot who has been programmed to speak by people who have never bothered to learn english! around this time last year, i was pulling 60-80 hour workweeks, but i still managed to carved out time for dates. i think more young women are open to the idea of dating a guy who is older than not, however it gets a bit tired when the topic gets turned into guys in their late 30’s and up going for girls in their early twenties. i’ve known several sorority women who would not join if they had to do it again for this reason. and no relationship is ever going to last if the woman does not have this experience. the same messege that tells a woman to look past 3. many older women are fine with compromising in love — to a point. one over-30 commenter was preoccupied with “young hot girls”, and another one displayed what you reported – that it’s not hypocritical for a man to sleep around yet expect women to be virginal. needs to be a manual that expressly notes that hooking up does not automatically mean that you are now bf/gf.” the new rule seems to be “as long as i’m not sure he’s definitely not the one, i might as well stay with him” no matter what his thinking might be. when women are doing the hunting, they can do the choosing – till then, it’s a man’s prerogative…of course, she doesn’t have to come back to my place – that is her choice, but mine is who i’ll put in the time and effort on… and as long as i’m getting enough response in that age bracket, why would i change? matter what he’s telling himself on his setting page, a 30 year-old man spends as much time messaging 18 and 19 year-olds as he does women his own age.@jpactually, with morality being a human social concept that is quite fluid across cultures and societies, and tribal affiliation being a genetically-driven (your tribe usually shares more genes than theirs), biologically common (all sorts of other animals display it) trait, i’d say it works the other way around. my guess is that the father, who would tell his daughter that she needs implants if he thought she was lacking, wouldn’t care all that much about whether or not she gets “played”. and i have no issue with this as far as it goes, but this is not an ltr of any sort. sure, a 33 y/o woman can rail at the harsh tone and overall injustice of how over 30 women are on the receiving end of a blanket discount. one of those things that isn’t fun but can be managed. i’m having a hard time seeing why you’d accuse me of trapping this man.@susankhal droga became a pussy at the end and let his wife boss him around too much, leading to his death. he said he loved me and wanted to spend the rest of his life with me, and four days later he was on another date.@susanone quick point about dating older men is that the older men may not always want to date a younger woman., if i did go workout, assuming that this was, say, a 45 minute workout, by the tie i got back and showered, it would basically be bedtime.”i’m not trying to be a pita here, but i have friends for this stuff. so, 0k later and a ‘reduced’ payment of now,only 0 per month (children are now adults), she had to file for bankruptcy because she pissed the money away. i just don’t think i am relationship material in this age.”yes, but this is the fun part of the relationship. but, one of my really good buddies was in theater- this dude made the rest of us look stupid with girls (and my friends were mostly not stem guys or bookworms, we were at the bars every weekend). after all this work on their part they are very guarded that some loathsome male sould will come along and want some of it. also, this is going to be harsh (and not in the escoffier harsh mold). we come from very different places and views, but i do believe that rollo has men’s best interests at heart, and i respect that, even if i don’t care for some of his methods. women go through menopause, which alters the body in many ways. i bought my own home thru hard work and saving after i got divorced, and i’m not selling my home to move in with anyone.’ve heard male commenters, particularly those seeking involvements with younger women, at roissy and elsewhere in the ‘sphere quote this maxim seriously. 😉susan – “if my husband told me he was going to miss me at work, i’d be alarmed”don’t take this the wrong way, but that statement made me feel very sad for you. even then we’re not talking your average umc gent who’s divorced his wife.@ zach:actually, with morality being a human social concept that is quite fluid across cultures and societies, and tribal affiliation being a genetically-driven (your tribe usually shares more genes than theirs), biologically common (all sorts of other animals display it) trait, i’d say it works the other way around.”this is kind of my argument against older parents (meaning 30+ when they start having kids). this was the custom of burning a widow alive on the funeral pyre of her husband.”i think that there’s some neuroscience/psychology about this floating around. – “he was the most emo guy i’ve ever known, but to be honest, that was part of his appeal. you don’t even allow the small talk with the woman at work. perception is reality, and my perception of a woman “changing” attraction triggers due to age is no different than my perception of a woman “settling” for a beta because she can no longer snag an alpha. (strs are a different story, though the women the mature man wants can undoubtedly get onss with men at their physical peak of mid to late 20s.: my college gf, her heart definitely got broken even though by the terms of this system which you praise as fine and just neither of us did anything wrong. is why i would never recommend that a man search for a woman who is physically out of his league. literally the day before her options were set to vest, he moved all her stuff out of his townhouse and locked her out. because honestly, the behavior appears to be exactly the same to me, and perception seems to be the sticking point between men and women on this.) i decided to count how many women were not skinny in the hour i was there:2 women, out of the dozens i saw in that hour, who were bigger (ie not skinny). even though i'm talking to the guys here, many of these points apply to you too. i too have been trying to figure out this older life dating thing. they think it’s their god-given right to have a woman half his age, or he “offshores” his love life by getting a mail order bride i. i’ll bet you’re an amazing woman, except this belief is not amazing:”my body is going through menopause and a man won’t be attracted to me for that reason. regardless of your stance on this matter the last line is wisdom that’s pretty hard to ignore. thing i’ve seen psychologists express concern about is that people don’t have a serious relationship at all until their late 20s, and then they marry that person.”did something induce the mania, or had you had them before and just not know they were manic? problem with old guys is old sperm, and erections that don’t impress like they did at his age of 22. most of the time it takes two, but once or twice i’ve given a woman the benefit of the doubt. i used the word boor to describe him as a “rude, ill-mannered person.. he traded her celebrity and fading looks for his money and lifestyle, and vice versa. i’m curious because i personally don’t know many (or any) guys that are overly emotional like you’ve described- it would seem intuitive that most men would be overly guarded about their emotions (and yes, i may be biased because that is how i am).“as for loved ones, i’m probably closer to him than any of his family. tend to romanticize other aspects of the relationship, protector/nurturer roles are played up for us. at this stage in life and the way gender relations have evolved during my lifetime marriage isn’t worth it for men anymore. some reason, that story, and the fact that you did not have any friends that were below a 6, reminded me of this:I learned the truth at seventeen. you know how it goes: the more manic you are, the more you don’t need to sleep, and the more manic you become. might sound crazy, but i can’t shake this image in my mind that zach and restricted girl are like two magnets of the same polarity that keep repelling each other: she is guarding her body; he is guarding his heart. at this age , i want to travel without animals or small children. this type of story is gold for women’s fiction, ie. sometimes girls say they are open to a ltr, or even a permanent relationship, with a guy that “inspires” those feelings in them. alone is indeed a prospect that should concern a woman who marries a man 10+ years older than herself. think any woman who gets married to the first man she dates runs a very strong risk of a poor marriage. he was sent here to simply prove that humans were capable of being more than animals. in addition, his income is climbing rapidly, which increases his mmv, or marital market value. last time we shared crazy stories desiderius lost his mind and has not been since since.@just a thoughtthanks for the link, that’s a very interesting article – on slate hannah rosin has already “fought back. however, i suspect the single guys in their late 40s and 50s should have no problem getting single women in their 30s. i actually think that could dissuade a man more than anything if the girl is like an instant cling-on, talking about their future together from the start. are very alpha old men like prince philip who we may say has still got it going on for an old goat, but that translates to high smv only for women a bit younger than he is, imo. offered a good example of how to be emotionally supportive when he was talking the other day about relating to his wife., an older man and a younger woman is a much better formula for marital success. in the manosphere would not say that they want submissive women. 😉i am probably the most restricted person commenting here and my reply to this:“dating for fun sounds very much like using other people for your entertainment. i’ve loved everyone of them and i sometimes file away the longer ones for later reminders. funny thing was that i went to the bathroom while i was in the young woman’s bathroom and she was telling her mother how she had kicked the guy out because he had never payed for anything, lol. i suspect this is at the heart of your unsatisfying results. a man’s testosterone level takes a huge nose dive at around 50. he had to do this for his daughter, that for his daughter.“cooper’s difficulties have been a direct result of flying loose and free with intimacy, trying to make a girl his gf after one night of hooking up.@zach“when i actually managed to get her to take a piece of clothing off , after we were done making out (which is all it was), she used her arms to cover herself up as we were ”my wife did this the first time i took her top off. was not divorcing his mother, just keeping away from his son. it’s common with young women (a big reason they go after so many dbags is for the “excitement”). these men are saying these things, my husband is a man, therefore he must feel the same way. however, his confidence and charm are ascending at this time, and are just below his peak physical attractiveness. my roommate and i are both not looking for anything super serious at this point, i mean if that develops, it is great. was an overly romantic/sentimental type, and he would tell me things that would make my skin crawl., she seems a very, shy, restricted, nervous woman, which in today’s world seems juvenile and way outside the norm., i can’t recall any talk of perelman’s looks, i’m just offering my personal opinion. – “well, reading about you being perceived as emotionless in most settings but being quite romantic at heart hits home to me.

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pickwick is misunderstood by his landlady when he proposes to hire a valet and is subsquently sued for breach (through sharper lawyers), she wins the suit, he refuses to pay, and is sent to debtors prison. i’m glad i’m not the only one that noticed this. i will concede the point that there are some, maybe even many, nice worthwhile single women in their mid fifties out there. they’ve already lost one man and don’t want to nursemaid another. dissing you zach, but i think hope is right on this one. but that strips the humanity right out of it, because a man is not a thing to be acquired any more than a woman is. i like whispering in a man’s ear, gently placing my hand on his thigh, tracing a man’s palm with my fingertips, speaking in a smoky seductive tone, and many other things”crap, now i have to rush home quicky and have my wife take care of this raging hard on you just me.@rollowe seem to be on the same page wrt the mature man. far too few are spelling this out for young women today. i consider myself to be well-educated (my college degree is actually in finance), and i have many hobbies that have nothing at all to do with shopping or getting my nails done. loads of physical problems, like a vitamin d deficiency or seasonal affect disease as mentioned above, can manifest as depression. speaking as someone who fell hard for a guy, only to discover later that he lied about me giving him a blowjob at a party, no, i don’t think it’s fucking immature to wonder how a guy might act once you’re out of sight. so, when you ask why guys might be bothered by this “maturation”, ask the dumb beach bimbo with bigguns why she might resent being nothing but a cum dumpster. confess i worried about you, intj and the other young guys while writing this – i didn’t want you to feel discouraged. so what do i think about dating at this age? even so hubby doesn’t has diabetes his family doesn’t develop it for some reason probably lifestyle choices and i won’t get it till i’m in my 60’s or if i become overweight, the kid was not born with it so this is something he will need to be careful but is not damning. i made many sacrifices in the marriage and put my dreams on hold. according to an aarp survey not too long ago, many divorced people do want love again … men and women. men don’t give a s#@t if your strong or not, unless we need you to buck some bales, and the fact that your independent translates to “i don’t need you, so be aware that your very expendable” which is always a turn on for any man. rollo says women are natural plate-spinners and that doesn’t mean they’re fucking all in parallel. is hard to read tone, so if this is tongue-in-cheek and i missed it, woops! that is why men are bitter and angry, then yes, they need to man up. i didn’t realize that i had a vitamin d deficiency, caused by too many months of no sunlight. khal is the total alpha who isn’t used to being as cunning (as opposed to ruthless) and so once he stops being true to his alpha nature he fucks up way too much and dies because of it. i consider myself to be average or above in looks, my physique is holding alright for a man of my age, etc. am not talking about a couple that feels like they need to lose weight after the holidays and decide to join a gym together, but where a man “demands” that she not gross him out. i have too many requirements and not enough in the dating pool. and i didn’t say that “all men age and look like perelman”. barry ife, cervantes professor emeritus at king’s college london; edwin williamson, professor of spanish studies at the university of oxford; jane whetnall, senior lecturer in hispanic studies at queen mary, university of london. 🙂i like how he has earned the friendship and respect of his peers at the wall. that khal, who was basically ass raping his wife, fell for her the minute she showed tenderness and requested intimacy. what is the point of being with someone this long if marriage isn’t the end goal? there was a fairly clear hierarchy on campus, and attractiveness and social status (meaning mostly, but not entirely, the kid’s backgroud) correllated fairly highly. i went to the gym today and while there decided that i would knock on his door when i got home and explain that i really just want to be by myself tonight, but he wasn’t in and i wrote a note and posted it in his letterbox. grandfather was in the army with this one guy who isn’t even all that great-looking. first year was much the same as yours, used and abused by pretty much every woman. in fact, borg et al have done some research which hints at cultural factors also being able to modulate this response. i’d much rather marry for love, to a good man that i am genuinely attracted to, and that is what i did.“she referred to — and recoiled from — perelman’s physical attributes, not his character defects. experience with following the ‘recent comments’ links is that they stop working after a couple of pages (they go to the wrong page and stay at the top of page)…as a techy i would guess that this is a bug triggered when the number of deleted (spam corralled) comments gets too large. his then followers got to divy up the captured chicks after they conquered groups and killed the men folk. on to that the inability of an undergraduate degree failing to stimulate much beyond an iq of 11 and its a recipe for depression. my point is, even a “restricted” woman can ride the “carousel” once or twice, and if the primary sticking point is riding at all, then unrestricted vs. – “also, don’t worry, i’ve now accepted the fact that i’m really a transsexual lesbian, so don’t take my perspective as though it came from a man. he has an 18 yo son and a 20 yo son, so he’s not quite an empty-nester (he’s had a few custody issues with his ex over the past 3 years). of us are choosing wisely, as we do have, at least some interest in remarrying, but this time we are hoping to find a keeper (and be one), and it may take a while, in these parts! 🙂j and kathy, yep i’m grateful to be with a good man.@ susan walshhe was the most emo guy i’ve ever known, but to be honest, that was part of his appeal.@susan:“i would never want a man to marry me because we’d been in an ltr together. her husband is a working man, not a drunk, not an abuser, but not making the money she thinks she deserves., she’s just aiding the youth alliance in the coming massive intragender conflict over an older, more power, more sophisticated future cooper (due to the lack of adequate supply of future coopers) , which will pit the aging 28-33 year old women against the younger, more aggressive, 23-27 year old women. i know one woman in her mid 20’s who shackled up with her first serious boyfriend, first guy she had sex with, and she made it clear she’d only sleep with the guy if he moved in with her and played his role as a co-habitation couple.“marry a man 10 years older and you could be in for a 20+ year widowhood. that’s the manosphere myth – the notion that a woman is likely to cuckold or cheat with some more alpha male during ovulation. too many men will look at these comments and say “see? i don’t need his money, and i don’t care if he never spend a cent on me. think this is not uncommon with artistic types – and this guy did go on to make his living acting and singing.😯esco, what scriptural authority did they give for this reasoning?, mere variation of custom does not prove nor even strongly suggest that all morality is human convention..one commenter even gloating about cheating on his so with other women from time to time., and maybe this is just from living in the northeast (the south and midwest are fat), but i constantly see early/mid 30s women who are very, very attractive. wanted to clarify that i do disagree with this take on the situation. might find this funny though: during my episode, when i was hallucinating/hearing voices, i heard my bf’s voice tell me that we could talk to each other telepathically, because we were “soulmates. implies that it is fine and well for a woman to go for the bad boy because she is immature today, but 10 years from now she can be totally happy with her provider husband because she “matured”. the last woman i met was fanning herself during the date due to a hot flash. have to say that i find this aspect of american culture to be the most backward and twisted. these conditions, a woman may be best off doing her aggressive filtering during the pre-date phase, making use of reliable social proofing indicators as much as possible, and then escalating quickly once the actual romance starts; traditional plans for an extended period of non-sexual exploratory dating/”boyfriend-shopping” and courtship are probably not realistic. in fact, regional differences could explain megaman’s observations about the smp there., i don’t like it when a man tells me that he misses me either.@rambleas you can see, men tend to focus on the youngest most fertile womeninteresting, while i was researching this post i came across a raging debate among evo psychologists. i had a dollar for every time i saw “i’m a strong, independent woman” by a personal ad, i would be able to retire today. men are set in their ways at this point in life, too… women are not alone in being empty nesters., sounds like something a victorian hack would do right after treating a woman’s “hysteria” with a vibrator. it takes time to blossom, and for the people in the relationship to realize that they see this person becoming a part of their life and putting more effort into the relationship. these guys never dated a woman their own age or older., as for the guy that made that comment above you which he is certainly right by the way since this does really happen to us men a lot. light you can shed on this situation would be tremendously helpful.” it’s probably what i deserve for hanging around the manosphere too long, because i become very… dark… after too much “women are only fit to belong to men and carry their offspring and this is the only way civilization can happen and now it’s broken and once more they’ll be crawling to us” talk and then i want to eat myself to death again. many women’s faces don’t develop and look good til out of their teens. i dated lots of women in their late 30’s, 40’s, and early 50’s. i take sex so seriously that i won’t share my body with a man unless he is committed to me–in the sacred vows of marriage where we swear to one another to live together till one of us dies. if a modern ltr can end “for any reason”, then a woman gaining 10 pounds counts. number of young women who feel as you do about not being ready for or desiring anything serious, but who can’t articulate it–even to themselves–vastly outnumber the young women who feel as you do and can state it with perfect clarity. of course, lately i’ve been working at a client location an hour away, so my morning “thinking” time has been lacking. i don't know if it's that guys this age have seen a lot of relationship disappointment that has made them bitter and angry, or if their bitter/angry vibe is what makes women run from them to the point where they are still single at 40, but these guys abound. wonder though if zach wants to have his cake and eat it too. if you don’t want to get involved with this neighbour that’s ok. obviously at this point i’ve realized that he just wasn’t that into me, and i am glad to have the more in-depth input – so helpful! it is wrong for the woman to not pursue marriage with an older man merely for age differences.“your comments in this thread make me realize that you are quite rigid about what you expect and how quickly., sick, sick (whatever it is)haha, sounds like something a victorian hack would do right after treating a woman’s “hysteria” with a vibrator. whichever way the woman chooses might lie to the individual woman. you are most certainly not the man i recommend, lol. the problem was that, while he loved his wife and had never been unfaithful to her, she didn’t provide him with the admiration and sense of sharing goals i did. i’d chosen the example of reggie miller and three-point shooting instead, would you have claimed “this isn’t true” and argued that you can shoot threes well? need to apologize, i have left many an internet question left unanswered. because christianity has one standard and it has been this way for hundreds and hundreds of years! i am 57, have been married, divorced, engaged again and reinvented myself after some serious illness and have no children. pvw and i got married, we did something very similar–not the pregnancy bit, but we wanted to get married but without a long engagement and we didn’t believe in living together, so we had a civil service in the context of a very nice intimate luncheon at one of fancy downtown hotels, followed later that year with a bigger bash. what is the point of being with someone this long if marriage isn’t the end goal? man should be aware, though, that if he does use his economic leverage to get a wife, that she is secretly lusting after the gardener, or her gym instructor, not him.@jpi think this is one of the problems in life; you are generally going to find someone you like better because you are going to continue to be exposed to new people as you move forward in life.””i think you are knocking down a straw man here. otherwise, you’re living a lie and robbing me of a real opportunity to marry someone who loves me the way you now love the other woman.”a prophet is not without honor, except in his own land. but leaving aside the manosphere hyperbole, the underlying reality is the same. because men have shorter lifespans, many older men are interested in having a potential caregiver or a “nurse with a purse. however, i feel luckier than ever to be with my man. but, if i’m introducing someone to my family, i’m past the “lets see how this works” stage and already on the “i think we should be thinking longer term here” phase. more i look at that picture, the more convinced i am that cigstache is a fat guy with manboobs and rocker hair that he put in pigtails for halloween. i am busy at university, i have good friends, live by myself (after being carer for my late mother and her dementia while doing my degree and going to italy to be with him). the time you get into your 40s, if you have the misfortune to find yourself in the dating pool, let me just tell you: It's a shit show. his reaction to that conversation was really alarming, considering we were discussing pedophilia. i mean come on, i was by his side through thick and thin, put in every dollar i made into what i thought was love, sharing and a lifelong marriage, only to find betrayal in every aspect. the popularization of second wave feminism, with the accompanying view that a woman’s virginity was her own to dispose of, removed those laws from the books, but i would bet that someone on this thread will characterize the criminal prosecution of the man in your link as “feminist. cousin, also known as the most beautiful woman born in the year 1956, had four daughters. it actually has the opposite effect and i’m surprised no one else has pointed this out. i am not saying that a guy i meet this weekend at a bar couldn’t be ideally compatible, but how would i really know if i’ve barely had any adult relationships? and later, when my wife got back to work and we decided that i will stay with baby three days a week (i got a work with no fixed hours, so i could do it) at one moment i seriously considered wearing pampers diapersheh is only hubby and me and he does helps a lot but when i’m breastfeeding about the only thing i can do is use the computer and baby is always eating he is 14 pounds now at 7 weeks it also helps that i’m hyperactive so i don’t need that much sleep. you need a venue with men who’ll be receptive–a conservative church mixer, an orthodox jewish matchmaker, a group of indian parents looking for a suitable woman for an available young man. am 55, am a tenured professor with a happy life, good relationship with my two kids, am a romantic and considerate person, and have been a life-long fitness enthusiast, training for a triathlon. we were both divorced, and at 32 she met me and things just clicked..that may be pretty descriptive of the greek scene, but outside that scene i don’t think most girls date two guys and have have some romantic contact with two others in three weeks. began to notice a certain look in his eyes a few months before he opened up, which i attempted to ignore.@passer-by:no, she knows that current cooper is being profoundly diminished by this post and thread. *scoff*) this is the part where i learned to ignore, cause it seemed all the girls wanted the validation of my attention, but not actually me. would not date a woman who was dating someone else. to mention the fact that his compliment is backhanded and patronizing.“seriously, while the manosphere can complain about the smp today in comparison to the monogamy of recent history, they should remember that for much of ancient history omegas and deltas would have much bigger problems than getting laid. but, if i showed that part of me to the world, the world would chew me up and spit me out a total wreck of a man. are far too many people in this world looking for ltrs, for anyone the proclaims to being doing so to waste their time with someone would isn’t quick to comply. so if your 50 something man looking for woman , have a little patience . years after catching my ex-wife cheating on me -with a woman-, after a 25 year marriage, i can say that at age 56 i feel pretty “sideways”. younger woman, older man thing will always raise brows from both sexes due to jealousy. i had no interest in meeting another man and thought that my two adult children were all i needed. while i may feel sorry in a way that women become invisible in later years – my experience in younger days was they were chased by guys like me. difference between men and women at this age, however, is that we don’t necessarily want the same things. think there’s this cultural meme that we have to absolutely make sure we’ve found the best possible match before we consider marriage. jeff and i have a great time, i like this kid. after his son got his own place, he moved back in with his wife. it takes time to blossom, and for the people in the relationship to realize that they see this person becoming a part of their life and putting more effort into the relationship. the record, all of this occurs in the context of both restricted and unrestricted populations. since the of today have really changed since the good old days when now there are so many very greedy, selfish, and very money hungry women these days that will only want the best of all and will never settle for less unfortunately.. the fact that 10 years later guys are still using this wingman setup is incredibly pathetic. regardless of your stance on this matter the last line is wisdom that’s pretty hard to ignore. his fiancee (now wife) was in stage iii cancer the last time i heard.: ” this ties in with some of what i felt when i was that age, and it reminds me of something we spoke of earlier, of being teenagers and having grown men hit on us. and no relationship is ever going to last if the woman does not have this experience. with the best i could possible have to offer, what 25yo girl isn't going to be able to find a 25-35yo man that can top it?@ljbut if you look at more than just raw numbers i think guys in their 30′s have a better “selection” than men in their 40′s and certainly 50′s especially if you’re a guy who is not interested in being a step-dad and would prefer to be with a never-married/no kids woman. he’ll figure out his real mmv/smv soon enough.@ susani realize that this post marginalizes the coopers and the kendras. i actually think it had the opposite effect though, because i read some of his other posts and heard “all you can have is xyz, quick bullet now or slow starvation later. i agree a woman should not let “having a man” define her happiness. “mark manson used deception to play erika awakening, which is totally not cool (though erika awakening does bear some responsibility for who she chose). tom selleck, liam neeson, a few others, but not many. so many people want to write us off because of menopause, etc., this morning as he left the house he said, “can’t wait to spend the weekend together! she’s throwing gasoline on that fire by breaking bad on a guy like ron perelman because he’s unattractive. at this point i’m basically just doing my best to give my kids a good shot at success, and that’s it.“for the record, all of this occurs in the context of both restricted and unrestricted populations. are two possible situations here, one in which the girl was nervous and restricted, one in which she was being juvenile, neither of which we can tell because this is like a law school exam where they give you facts that can be interpreted in different ways and then you spend your time listing all the ways they go together given different assumptions not in evidence in the fact pattern. wants a susan-style ltr (“at-will” monogamy until further notice, easy unilateral exit, no required consideration of the other person’s feelings). wife is convinced that my next door neighbor when i was really young is gay (still married to his wife, however). but a guy in his 40’s shooting for a 22yo woman is a pervert, and let’s not even talk about those 50+ guys!”in a perfect world, this would be the case, but my experience in my mid 20s is that women your age are not frequently selecting for this. a divorced (my choice) single father over 40 i wouldn’t marry again to resurrect a child. only way this is possible is if the person does not shut it down immediately., re: breach of promise, i’ve never read of that in an american context and as late as 1950? you really don’t want a woman who needs a man; you want a woman who enjoys the company of men and wants to be with one special man. its a major backward step and a recpie for resentment,My interests and passion would be secerely compromised by being in a couple as i don’t want to become another mans mother or main care provider. you don’t see too many tropes of marrying the middle-class guy and living “frugally ever after” ha ha! whenever i’ve expressed the desire for romantic love, sex and marriage, i get criticism and told you don’t need a man, you’re a strong black woman. to embrace my partner and his endeavors and to hope after doing so that he would do the same., there is so much to do and see on this planet. i’m fairly certain i learned this by observing my grandparents marriage. while  you may not want to focus exclusively on older guys, i recommend that this be one strategy in your portfolio. he trades on his family influence, has to buy his women, and is also overshadowed by jamie and ned.. i’m a type a woman and i can assure you we type a women avoid wedding bands and everything and anything having to do with them whatsoever! might find this funny though: during my episode, when i was hallucinating/hearing voices, i heard my bf’s voice tell me that we could talk to each other telepathically, because we were “soulmates. i’m having an exceptionally hard time getting a man to even notice me in the first place. yeah, but it puts him on the spot and you read his immediate reaction to figure out what’s up. what i said was:“a large number of ordinary average men in their 30s to their 50s are going to resemble [perelman]. this december i am turning 33 and i find it depressing as hell that according to this blog, i’ve reached my peak and basically have nothing to offer to a quality guy who is looking to settle down. certain californian has taken this single dad off the market…:) here’s hoping it keeps that way.: zach and the restricted girllet the general consensus sound forth: it sounds like this is just not a match.@otc, jackie“ha, i think this only really applies to people who never have been beta or ugly.@hopei have to say though that the last line of this post was my favorite.“i can’t imagine demanding a life experience with no heartbreak.

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what is a man’s excuse for being obese and out of shape? this is why teh wimminz is beyotches and can’t be trusted! still decided to procreate because there is no such a thing as perfect genes and there is always the chance that technology will advance to a point that you kids will have a different lifeyes this part is true. historically, most of the people that today don’t want kids would have had them anyway due to no birth control and other factors. i think the oldest man i would possibly consider dating right now would be 37-39, and that’s pushing it. sure, a couple of them are slackers, but the vast majority of them are just about to finish school and many of them are quite intelligent and will do very well career-wise. every year older a man is past a certain age (his physical peak of 28? if a 24 yo man pairs up with a 19 yo woman, it’s all good to me, but an 80 yo man with a 47 yo woman? truth is, that isn’t very fair on whatever poor woman is with me at the moment, which is why i’m working on it. about a sure-fire way to becoming a carousel rider; live with a man for a few years, be taken care of, get a taste for it, then when you break up, you’re looking for another one to get the same. what is it about them that causes men to act this way? she has even managed to do a moderate amount of good. for you, i find it hard to believe that you were at the bottom of the pile with those luscious big brown south asian boobies and delectable chocolate nipples. what about that skinny emo nathan hardin– his arms were like pencils?’””this is seriously funny in a sad funny, but really really funny way. i’ve never experienced a man waiting more than that to call me/text me.@ saywhaat you’re right, this only applies to people in relationships, virgins have no feelings lolit’s true! 🙁 i just want to say if people are ever going through this, i hope they will post here to get support and a compassionate ear. zach and this girl are not good fits, so i think they should probably part ways. the “players” know what to say to manufacture the “chemistry” and the “connection”. told story joe, i am a divorced female after 19 years of marriage. thing is, i remember a painting rather similar to this one hanging in my grandparents house as a young boy. my “man filter” is set on high at this stage of life and my bs tolerance level is set on low.)it seems almost fetishistic when race is part of a compliment. many people disagree, but i actually do think that having a child bonds a couple together even more firmly. it makes sense, as many young people are in these programs just at the time when they’re thinking about marriage. i don’t think women have any idea that many men in their 30s would like to settle down – as you say, all the media attention is on aging women not being able to find mates. the man gets bored with that, and that’s when he cheats. she’s just glad to see her grand daughter in love (i love that old woman. i mean, how many range rovers can one woman drive?: “every man should be aware, though, that if he does use his economic leverage to get a wife, that she is secretly lusting after the gardener, or her gym instructor, not him”playne jain again. twenty-three states have legalized lifetime alimony, ruining a man’s financial life to where he starts out with a big monkey on his back to try to start over. point is that a lot of women view in this way men who are not classically physically attractive. if men see me as the enemy because i think ron perelman is gross in every way, including physically, they’ve got issues. i had genuine regard for him and still think he is a wonderful man. the last time we shared crazy stories desiderius lost his mind and has not been since since. many of us just want friends to chat with, travel with, hang out with, and enjoy the beautiful days ahead with no complications. when i was 18 and a man in his 30s hit on me, i couldn’t understand why that old man thought i would be interested in him. the history is fascinating, but it has for 70 years been about making films.@cooperbut the same messege that tells a woman to look past 3. i haven’t even thought about it until two years later now. as far as the average guy in his 40s and 50s getting gorgeous 22 year olds, thats pretty much a pipe dream. you’re right, this only applies to people in relationships, virgins have no feelings lol. but for the life of me i don’t understand why on earth manboobzians would get all sensitive and sentimental about patriarchal religions. all three were permanent staff who had careers better than mine, but were single, two had ph. i think most women don’t struggle with fertility before their mid to late 30s. i am sympathetic but as this can be an emotional rollercoaster etc. i mean obviously there is the dating game before you get to this point, but i think i can feel out a “cozy” person right away. is always interesting to see girls get that deer-caught-in-headlights look when, after hearing their checklist of things they want in a man, you ask them what they are bringing to the table. the 52 year old who wants a woman in her 20s should get out there and see what he’s got. earlier up thread someone, i forget who, spoke about a 19 year old who found it enjoyable to be a stay-at-home girlfriend to an older man. you can imagine what the human body goes through for that. he was always complaining that the women in west la were too heavy (as compared with the model thin women in manhattan, i guess). given how heavily oriented towards women those workplaces are, it tends to reinforce the worst female behaviors (cattiness, distorted body image, etc) just as finance reinforces many of the worst male ones (douchebaggery, cockiness, etc).”this is the rule that j’s work colleague broke. i assure you that i can put many evangelical preachers to shame when it comes to fiery speeches about sin, evil, and eternal damnation, and i’m not all that invested in the religious aspects at all. every divorced man out there has an ex wife who has said things like this about him.”in general, unlike dating, you forgive the person the sin of being human and having needs. reading this, i am so glad to be married to a man that is a good companion but barely tolerable as a husband. i think you are missing is that many guys want a few relationships before they marry as well. he carries 3 disposable cell phones one for each woman he is dating. what the manospherians here would say about a woman who did that! while marriage was not always easy, as most human relationships are complicated, we loved each other well. however, his longing for closeness might not be all what it seems. this is probably the best evidence i’ve seen for the argument that restricteds should stick with restricteds, and likewise for unrestricteds. did ignore some arguments that were relevant to my point which is that marriage is not the point at which loyalty/permanence enters the relationship. i managed to pick a whole bunch of guys that were not right for me. he wanted the wafer thin model types he was used to from manhattan. was the most emo guy i’ve ever known, but to be honest, that was part of his appeal. after reading many comments, it reminded me of why i had decided to end the last relationship…at this age unlike before marrying we wonder what our spouses would be as a parent…this no longer matters at this stage of life. i actively think about my husband and look at his pictures/read our old conversations while he’s away. the husband of whom we dream at twenty is not at all the type of man who attracts us at thirty. it felt wierd and scary, as though a man who was so much older was deliberately targeting me because he might have felt i was young and naive (vulnerable, but not in a good way) and not mature enough to negotiate a relationship with a man so much older and experienced..Jp – yeah but you are literally sticking it to the “man” when you sue the fed..@ detiron perelaman is gross and there’s nothing wrong about stating that. too many women have no means to support themselves after a divorce because “they needed men” a little too much during their marriages. seeing hubby as a capable loving involved father makes him more sexy to my eyes and it brings another level of his personality that i never saw before. long as you are neurochemically high, so to speak, it’s hard to see how you figure this out.:but, after a month (and no sex), the two of you were not so emotionally attached such that your feelings would (or should) impact his decision whether or not to continue the relationship. funny thing is that i detected absolutely no malice in his words. assuming no deal breakers show up and they can manage some of the more intrusive obstacles, the end goal is kids and marriage. this skews society, and means that women are forced to search for a guy with some sort of economic security if they want to have a child. bringing up the manosphere as if it’s so important, but it’s really not doing you any favors here. india, having sex with a woman by falsely saying you will marry her is considered rape. it was great because we got along extremely well, he was fun and easy going and he was a widower that loved his wife. i think 26-30 is when are most attractive…they are still young, handsome, and virile, while maturing and developing those “dad” traits many women look for in a husband. my first wife and i got divorced i spent a number of hours in a local health spy. again, i only actually am caring about this because he was a higher caliber than the majority of guys i meet. all i hear is, you are a beautiful woman and i want to date you. i was 18, i did not feel mature enough to be dating a man in his upper 20s or 30s.) this is eyebrow-raising for more than a few reasons, but it’s worth noting that lena headey is almost 40. they often get played freshman year once, get even more cautious, and promptly become invisible to the frats for the remainder of their college years. post wendy it seems that so many people see age as a barrier to enjoying life sometimes it is about choosing carefully and making sure that someone is ready to meet you half way going through the hurt of being someones caretaker for a few months until they feel ready to move on is indescribable and knocks self esteem and confidence there are many lovely people out there. at the same time, i think it’s folly to suggest that a man’s smv peaks in his late 30s. just because the man is older does not mean the child would not be taken care of, one way or another. so just tell him to stop and that you have no romantic interest in him..this has got to be one of the weirdest comments ever left here! i hate just the idea of dating and plate spinning, and going out with different guys in one week., honestly, what does it matter to hus what the manosphere thinks? it sounds insane to us, but it’s probably less than 5% of his net worth. coupled with the factor that many 45 to 50 year old men may not be interested in dating a woman older than them (even though it is only a few years). the cads are reading her dad’s stuff, and using all the “this is so special, let’s keep it just between us.@ passer_by:“i have experienced this many times, in reverse. are a lot of other tips that you’ve mentioned like emitting seductive eye contact, hand feeding him something, or being honest about what parts of his body you find attractive– but i think that those would be more appropriately used when i actually have a boyfriend(? “too many men will look at these comments and say “see? the latest batch of newbies were named by the vet techs– all got characters! if he is tired of the usual carousel (and he wants something more than the typical women he has been with), will he realize he needs to recalibrate and change his dating strategy to work with this new type of woman? i know beyond all doubt that any process *i* designed to fix all this would be painful at best, and downright inhuman at worst. i’m having a hard time seeing why you’d accuse me of trapping this man.+1post-college i know a lot of women who fall into this category, and as a non-carousel rider i went through this as well. night of serious fooling aroundand this was not the least bit slutty. comments like hers implicitly tell the manosphere “yes, you’re right. either she isn’t confident in her body, or her body was naturally reacting in a frightened/reserved manner in front of zach. you say stuff like “i’m frugal” and “spend the family into oblivion” it just shows that you are a little child-man who is pouting and wants to hoard his money. each time he would go away, his friend (30) would say to me, “so what do you think of him? don quixote tells the story of an unlikely hero – an impoverished country gentleman who goes mad from reading too much and decides to put the world to rights by becoming a knight errant. the “viagra triangle” in chicago exists and thrives purely because of this exception. if you are an intelligent, attractive, white collar professional man, you would be better off swinging a hammer all day, joining a bowling league, and having a vocabulary like a sewer and then you would find a mate. i know a bunch of recent college grads who met their spouses in college, moved to the same area after graduation, and got married a few years later. unless a woman was desperate and knew her smv was low, she would never take herself out of circulation for a guy she was not interested in. i think at this point we would start hanging out a bit more, and potentially becoming a couple. not taking any non-stem classes this semester, so that cuts down on the interactions with girls.“i don’t know if bringing up briffault’s law is verboten here or not, but in both cases, the woman is benefitting, just in different ways. man should be aware, though, that if he does use his economic leverage to get a wife, that she is secretly lusting after the gardener, or her gym instructor, not him. their idea of an emotionally healthy man is some twit who will constantly cater to whatever they are complaining about at the moment. whichever way the woman chooses might lie to the individual woman., the truth is, my “margin for error” on this issue is very, very, very slim. asked desi the same question this summer, when it came up with the girl he met at the pool. i’m a firm believe in “anything goes within a committed relationship” and a woman that conservative about her sexuality would be very difficult to make comfortable enough to do some of the stuff i’m interested in these days. that is often the man’s choice, in hindsight i would say to guys the empty nester, but when i was nearly in that position i thought younger woman and start again. henry-type short story about a man who writes a pua blog on the science of seduction.: “my guess is that there are unrestricted men who have not had the opportunity to indulge their true sexual preferences – they look restricted but they are not”this is probably true. his daughter ends up being played by a cad who used the lessons directly from her dad’s blog.@intjwell, in my story, the dad’s blog is under his nom de ‘net– not even his family has any inkling that thousands of would-be puas are hanging on his every word.:i’m not here to gain points with the manosphere. and when many of us good men out there will try to start a conversation with a woman that will attract us which she will curse at us since i had this happened to me already and a friend that i know had it happened to him a couple of months after me. there is something very sexy about a man in a position of authority, with gravitas.@j:“the bible also assumes that a man acquires a wife through intercourse.@ted d“you see, i and many men i know never went through that “bleach blonde” phase, so although i understand the stereotype you were shooting for, it is only because i’ve seen it in popular culture. he was very good looking, but kind of a mess emotionally, he had a terrible relationship with his father, who was a high testosterone type who called him a sissy. regardless of his love for his wife, we all know rob wants/deserves a hot, younger girl.@robbera certain californian has taken this single dad off the market…:) here’s hoping it keeps that way. that, my parents and other relatives would have been seriously on my case if i even thought to do something of the sort–live with a man as a “kept woman,” a mistress, i would have never heard the end of it. (this is not a typical swimsuit choice in boston unless you are at the pool to swim laps. think that many people of both sexes flirt with unrestricted behavior – that’s clear from the stats showing that half of all men and women who hook up are doing it to get a relationship. on top of that, her language and concerns (sloppy seconds, thinking he would brag about going to second base) would suggest that she is, at best, emotionally stunted in this area and, at worst, full of real hang ups. if a man is looking specifically to raise children, especially in this hellacious legal client insofar as men are concerned, he’s going to have to quite rigorously suss out his so’s history, compatibility, and character, and if you’re starting with a woman that is already 25, by the time they’re ready to have that kid they’re already cutting it awfully close to the fertility decline.@sassy“at this point, she sounds about as fun as a wet mop. he loses his job and declares bankruptcy i’ll face poverty with him and do what i can by working extra hours, helping cut expenses, and supporting him in his search for a new job–without nagging. she was genuinely hurt, i thought, by the bus incident and by his writing about it. as a woman of 55, i’ve had knee repairs, keep an eye on my blood pressure, wear reading glasses, gained a few pounds over the years, so… none of these things “perform” as they did 20 years ago. “sloppy seconds”, worrying about what he’s going to say to his friends behind her back? (although i bet someone like jaclyn friedman gives someone like gloria allred a pain in the ass that no amount of advil can dull. i could have called his wife or hr had i been that sort of woman.” it’s supposed to go back to the man if the engagement is broken. chances are, if you were a freshwoman dating a junior or senior, you are probably more into the ‘touch of grey’ than you think. four of the six could strongly relate, while two were not affected:the editor, 36it’s not an internal thing for me. of all the old timers, there is one that still seems to be interested in chasing women at 71 (he tried to pick me up some time ago, rather hilarious–the man’s children must be my age, a bit older or even a bit younger. and i feel pretty confident that many of the other male regulars are coming from the same angle.” the typical response is “where are getting this craziness coming from? and a woman deserves to have a husband who sees her as a hot, younger chick, and not someone who he may want to “trade in”. observations of the polar opposite of susan’s in this regard. did you actually notice that he might have been crushing on you ever so slightly before he actually burst open with his declaration of undying and eternal j love? now, i knew the song, he had performed it for me many times, and also written it out. only two women who ever liked playing settlers of catan were: 1) one woman who was more masculine than 50% of the guys in the game, and 2) a married woman who only played so she could give her husband good deals on trades. – what’s the psychology in dating an older man who looks young? i think this mismatch occurs because zach is fairly unrestricted and does not enjoy “bringing out that side of her. think the 1-10 scale is just about as dehumanizing as you can get: women are being reduced to a number, not even an adjective. jeez, if i had a nickel for every time i’ve seen the manosphere rag on women who let themselves go! i don’t read his blog but he can definitely put 2 + 2 together. and, according to one comment in this forum this would indicate there would be something wrong with me. obviously haven’t read the threads at manboobz so i have no sense of the discussion over there, but is it possible you were banned for consistently bringing up material that was off topic? for every guy over 30 who is lavishing in the rewards of their labour which may or may not include aiming his attentions at younger women, there are dozens of men who are reeling from divorce, struggling with a highly competitive and increasingly demanding mid-career, or are otherwise temporarily or perpetually lacking in status markers or physical attributes (the short, fat, bald crowd) that are more than enough to reduce his smv/mmv to the point where his age is just one more detriment; a far cry from the kid in the candy store or any kind of position from which he projects this blanket discount upon his female peers. my grandfather was very much the old school stoic “manly” man type. i’m wondering if the reason many of you seem to think that “getting to know someone” takes months is because you all just like too damn many people. a woman to commit at 21 for life is asking for divorce. a black man saying to me, you are a pretty white girl. if a 24 yo man pairs up with a 19 yo woman, it’s all good to me, but an 80 yo man with a 47 yo woman? id much rather date a guy 24-28 (upper limit 30) who is working on getting himself established than find and old(er) man that is already there.”so there is market demand for restricted sororities and fraternities. that’s just more disposable income, freetime and a zero percent chance of getting divorced. think this is very true once we remove ourselves from the sphere of the ultra-rich.”my point is that you can’t know really this until the fun and exciting part of the relationship ends, which normally happens once you are actually married. many ways, la has more in common with phoenix that it does with san francisco. just as you do not owe any woman a relationship based on having had a few dates with her. the people making the most money in this tech industry are the steve jobs types that started working with computers before they reached puberty. again, this goes back to my point about women putting more priority on marriage and family before they start a career. as first recounted by his brother william, he replied:“be it so. problem is typical: my ideal woman would be a shy, introverted, conservative women that turns into a nympho only in my company.

Dating a divorced man in his 40s

you see, on many ways we are working towards the same goal. woman zach is seeing has been burned by someone, and he’s the rebound. i have no doubt he chose computer science as his major in part because it was something with which he was already familiar, and now he’s got a sweet job/salary set up for next year.:“just as it’s delusional to assume that all men age into clooney, it’s just as unfair to assume that all men age and look like perlman. in my age range many of these men are very set in their ways, have ‘parked the bus’ or have let themselves go usually health-wise (which gives me fear of the caretaking factor). the question is whether an unrestricted man would be willing to work with it or not.@passerby“well, you’ve managed to royally piss off the mras, puas, internet feminazis, and reddit mangina dorks. at a deeper level though i truly am romantic and wanted to marry both of the somewhat longer-lasting gf’s i had.“well, you’ve managed to royally piss off the mras, puas, internet feminazis, and reddit mangina dorks.’m 60 female and after many years of marriage my husband died.@otc“she wants a susan-style ltr (“at-will” monogamy until further notice, easy unilateral exit, no required consideration of the other person’s feelings). yet i feel no strong desire to intemately connect romantically.. how many children do you want to bring up in your 50’s and 60’s joe? why as a prudish woman who actually wants a sexual relationship a woman must find ways to segregate herself from the other two categories without moving into the slut category.“the truth is that without these mores, many men would have sex with females who are not yet adults. when i finally wake up, i have to take apart my boys old bunk bed and get his new full size frame setup. privately, one-on-one, with the man i love, i’m a huge flirt. after reading some of his more personal posts, i put him in the “asshole trying to reform” pile. women are attracted to mastery, but for men, a woman being a master at something is either neutral or a mild plus that won’t override more primal smv factors.”indeed, it goes both ways: a man must bring more to the table as he ages, just as a woman needs to.@madisonkc“i don’t understand the whole waiting until a man is financially stable before entering relationships. basic math shows that most of these women will have picked themselves a permanently single life whether it is welcomed or not. when we see a guy in his 30s, we assume he could obviously be married right now if he wanted, so he must be choosing to play the field indefinitely. reason that you can’t find a good woman is that you are a lazy old dinosaur! the fourth time, the point is this: there’s a lot of anger and bitterness and hostility in the manosphere. by the time a man that invests in himself truly comes into his own, he’ll be far separated from the hottest women he knew back in hs/college, while those that were either naturally endowed or chased flashy but ultimately superficial pursuits at the expense of long-term return got the pick of the litter. the older the man is, the less the maxim holds imo. idea of a romantic partner is faintly alluring even still, but the knowledge of what modern relationships are about, and what modern people seem to want out of life makes me just shrug and say:Omgchroniclestwitter: omgchronicles says:April 22, 2015 at 1:41 pm. however if i suspect when i get to be in my late 20s and 30s a 10+ age gap would be welcomed. i meant that as a friend i don’t know what to do to help a guy, whereas with a woman, i know what i can do: listen.@intjfirst, i think erica awakening is perhaps not guilty by reason of insanity, but during this period of months of building intimacy, she knew the guy had a gf.@jackie“imagine a black man saying to me, you are a pretty white girl., surely, you must understand that it’s weird that she thinks he would brag to his friends (who she barely knows) about taking her top off.@susan“would you want a woman to marry you because she’d been in an ltr with you, even though her attraction for you had begun to wane in recent months, and a handsome guy at work was tempting her with regular invitations? 😉“i assure you that i can put many evangelical preachers to shame when it comes to fiery speeches about sin, evil, and eternal damnation, and i’m not all that invested in the religious aspects at all.)iow, if a man wants to marry and have a family with the hottest woman possible, he should act when he perceives that his mmv is highest, which may mean partnering with a woman who is 30 or more. i’d much rather be financially independent than rely on a man. i’m also pointing out that a sizable number of the men in the 80%, the betas, deltas and gammas, and the betas susan says she wants women to meet, date and marry, are going to resemble perelman physically (short, fat and physically unattractive) even if they don’t resemble his personality. he also spent a lot of time lifting weights in his garage a la chris cooper in american beauty. men don’t want to be referred to in derogatory terms, they would do well not to emulate mr.” you know how it goes: the more manic you are, the more you don’t need to sleep, and the more manic you become. no, i don’t need a man in my life to complete me, but it sure is nice to have one to enhance it. they will try to do the right thing for both parties by ending the “mini relationship” sooner, rather than later. i see my wife every single day of my life, and i still on occasion find myself at this very desk “daydreaming” about being with her. she was talking about him being fat and ugly, specifically about how his $ balanced out his physical unattractiveness. this makes her anxious, she is a restricted woman, you are an unrestricted man, so she thinks you’re playing her for sex (because you’re going through the actions by route). when we see a guy in his 30s, we assume he could obviously be married right now if he wanted, so he must be choosing to play the field indefinitely., the manosphere does not have any mainstream outlets (things like maxim and fhm most definitely do not count). i dreamt about being a beautiful young bride and having a home and family life like so many women do – but it’s not going to happen.@kendra“this december i am turning 33 and i find it depressing as hell that according to this blog, i’ve reached my peak and basically have nothing to offer to a quality guy who is looking to settle down. saying this “the only time a woman wants a man is when she needs a man” reflects a somewhat sour attitude. lot of stupid women on this topic that was written by a woman anyway. know that we men tend to impose a kind of morality tale on this where the high n woman finds herself w/ nothing but cats, romance novels, and bob (“battery-operated boyfriend”), but i think that a fair number in nyc manage to get away with it.:“deti, the repulsiveness of perelman is in his character (or lack thereof, rather).. she did, so i escalated emotionallybasically i played the role of the woman in our courtship in terms of emotional escalation, and she pushed for sex. reality is that many men date multiple women for the same reasons women date a lot of men. am down with this, and i’m down with susan’s goal. what if ex-hubby was cheating on her, but that never got out because you only heard his side of events? 🙁 i would be willing to bet there’s some major trauma or mental illness behind all this. they would probably introduce one another to family at this point, perhaps visit one another’s hometowns, etc.@zachone quick point about dating older men is that the older men may not always want to date a younger woman. would never want a man to marry me because we’d been in an ltr together.’ve sadly watched two of my very good friends ruin really great relationships because they were on the hunt for something else, “just to make sure this relationship is what i want. i am a human being that after years of games, travel, attitude, laughter, freedom loss, great sex, what have you, just decided i am at my happiest just hanging out with friends. when my harry passed away three years ago, he was still the same vibrant and wonderful man that i met many years ago in law school. however, castigating the manosphere by pointing out that there are men (in the manosphere) who feel that women should not be allowed to drive is a little like saying the democratic party is complete horseshit because there were plenty of liberals on popular blogs who would compare bush to hitler or, sometimes (and this was my favorite) a monkey.“and, surely, you must understand that it’s weird that she thinks he would brag to his friends (who she barely knows) about taking her top off. i have many friends and a hundred things i’d love to learn about.: but not if a woman like that is hanging out with an alpha crowd of guys like zach and his pals! but i have run into my fair share of christians who loudly proclaim how they are god’s servants, blessed be his name, etc & etc, yet they’re quick to condemn and not once have i ever seen their ilk working at a soup kitchen or similar. i once asked my dad if he thought my mom was the only woman he ever could’ve married. i was looking for a fb i’d definitely say fido at this point. i think it’s fair to say that any woman who marries you in future is a fool. that said, not every woman is materialistic, into social media (so many of my gal friends aren’t), etc. cooper’s difficulties have been a direct result of flying loose and free with intimacy, trying to make a girl his gf after one night of hooking up. keep repeating this and punctuate the five year period with two girlfriends, meaning that instead of this, you get (periodically):weekend 1: spend all weekend with girlfriend., i did ask you a question a few threads back that you never answered, so, i will ask it again:oh man, ramble, if you are going to talk about how much you long for women to get dumped if they gain 5 lbs…whoa. i’ve seen nothing in the general philosophy of this blog that suggests to me that susan supports “looks-ism. theory is that in the eea, if a male survived into his forties and had some authority, that would have been a proxy indicator for high genetic fitness (since most didn’t make it that far), and thereby triggered something subconscious in some women. the only time i can ever remember this being used in popular culture was a vague reference to it by alec baldwin, as jack donaghy, saying that he is turning 50, which is like turning 32 for you (he said to tina fey as liz lemon).) i’m not a people person, and this is but one way it manifests. but susan, you of all people should know that i suck at delivery, and in this case it was far easier to find a woman that was comfortable with my inner sickly-sweet emo than to figure out how to change it. 😉did meet this girl during astronomy study group but turned out she had a boyfriend. at this point, i am about to throw in the towel. but you have never felt this degree of longing before, for any woman. and until we do –which i believe only comes after this life– the only superiority we can practice is a false one. henry-type short story about a man who writes a pua blog on the science of seduction. which makes the timing rather comical to me…)all this talk of 10 years being too much is bs and only applies at the lower end.)i’ve come to expect that the restricted girl i’m lookin for may very likely seem like this. obviously the physical attraction would exist for a wide range of very young women but it’s hard to imagine spending significant (non-sack) time with a woman way, way younger. but, after a month (and no sex), the two of you were not so emotionally attached such that your feelings would (or should) impact his decision whether or not to continue the relationship. comments about men’s sexual performance are unfortunate, there again an open mind is key. just over two years ago, my husband of over 35 years left me for a younger woman. was inspired to write this post by a couple of women i know who are really, really enjoying relationships with men ten years older. that’s the manosphere myth – the notion that a woman is likely to cuckold or cheat with some more alpha male during ovulation. one neighbour is 60 and divorced and also looked after his aged mum for a long time and we got on quite well over the years.”i never encountered this and i didn’t seriously date until i was in my 40s after my divorce.” the men i regard as alpha are much different than many of the definitions i’ve seen. i get the whistles and get asked out by strangers, but i haven’t went yet, because they haven’t taken any time to get to know me. also didn’t really feel like zach and this girl are a good match. the best way to do this, in addition to online dating, is through work, social circles and activities. like the quote to deti yesterday, be the change you wish to see in this world, ted! re: “i miss you,”i think the differences reflected in this conversation are really just personality/preference differences.(b) have no interest in this social media / facebook / twitter / look-at-me thing. or should you end your relationship and explore a relationship with the woman at work? this near-incomplete ability to function in the real world, i had nearly a 4. need to always feel they have the young woman in their life. ”well, your and my version of overweight probably differed from his. she doesn’t have to have sex right away with him, but she could definitely learn how to seductively engage him in flirtation and “kino” to engage his senses without sex. i think 15 years might be as far as i could manage, but only because at that point, we probably wouldn’t share any kind of common history at all. ”i thought a point of life was to avoid romantic trauma, meaning that you marry the person you fall in love with. “i’ve hung around tons of gamer guys, their partners, friends, families, and all that, and the only two women who ever liked playing settlers of catan were: 1) one woman who was more masculine than 50% of the guys in the game, and 2) a married woman who only played so she could give her husband good deals on trades. please don’t look at hollywood or the media for that fact for any “truth” about people (well, you can believe this blog!@ hansololol you should put the “intj don’t read this” disclaimer at the top of the post. i have discovered that some foreign women whom i get to know first simply based on my appearance are much more likeable, less demanding and more accommodating — in every way, even when i tell them my real age. unfortunately, i’ve seen many parents take great pride in having a ladykiller son.(and ladies before you start hating me for ‘learning’ how to create chemistry – remember that it’s you that wants this crap, not the guys…). even one person commented on this blog that women go from “made to mom to crone. which is why i keep saying that n alone is useless, but how a woman got her n is not.” but, as ryan advises, be sure you’re still his priority. real nice guys have heard it in so many of their rejections that the word becomes kyrtonyte. i’m not trying to complain or whine, just trying to paint a realistic view of how ‘betas’ see the world in college and why they can become so bitter later in life. if smv is a measure of how sexually attractive a woman finds a man, then men peak at 28.@ramble“however, i did ask you a question a few threads back that you never answered, so, i will ask it again:oh man, ramble, if you are going to talk about how much you long for women to get dumped if they gain 5 lbs….@susan“it’s much more useful to take stock of a guy’s reputation (if you can) than to judge him based on his age, height, address, car, etc.@ escoffieri found his usage of the word surprising, to be honest. as it’s delusional to assume that all men age into clooney, it’s just as unfair to assume that all men age and look like perlman. maybe he should start going for hot 30-35 girls, right, or maybe even women closer to his age? at this age, becoming attached is a decision, it’s not by magic. this is based on the idea that people are foremost autonomous individuals with their own needs and wants, and they should be free to satisfy their preferences as they see fit. never did the “date for fun” thing, and i told my husband that early on, which was one of the reasons i piqued his interest. came across this just now from a search as i was feeling having gone through menopause and now on the other side, my skin and face has just *changed* without my being able to do anything about it (save cosmetic surgery or some such icky thing). sex life (and i believe this is true for most guys) is just so important to me that i can’t commit without some indication of how it’s going to be.@ramble i guess my question is, outside of hus, is anyone actually incorporating this rule of thumb into their advice? henry-type short story about a man who writes a pua blog on the science of seduction. zach is pushing for the physical and in his own words, managed to get her to take her top off, but she is clearly uncomfortable because he is not emotionally invested in her. none of them are going to be willing to be the first “lab rat” in his experiment to find connection.’s self-confidence is feigned, except for his belief in his intelligence. am going to assume, with great confidence, that when this adage was coined they were not thinking of 80 year old men. his emotional feelings start informing other parts of his brain. in this small study, borg was able to demonstrate a link between conservative moral values and sexual dysfunction. last week he was with a late 30’s hot japanese woman.’ve always been like this, but my wife didn’t realize she was until she got with me., i haven’t heard a woman say “second base” since 1970. – “missing me while he is supposed to be managing a portfolio sounds like bad news for investors.@sai:” it’s probably what i deserve for hanging around the manosphere too long, because i become very… dark… after too much “women are only fit to belong to men and carry their offspring and this is the only way civilization can happen and now it’s broken and once more they’ll be crawling to us” talk and then i want to eat myself to death again”uh, that’s because it’s a toxic cesspool that radiates hatred and despair into the universe.’s true that as a man gets older, he will have a tougher time dating 20 year olds. sound of the wind whistling through those feathers as he charged into battle upon his war horse terrified the enemy. i’m 42 and married to a woman 8 years my junior. summarize:dating a man 5-10 years older carries significant benefits and minimal downsides.“this is what women think of their aging, not so physically attractive husbands. loved when hope spoke about preferring the longer distance, online dating experience because it gave her ample opportunity to understand a man before she would be too intimate with him. the first is an ltr timed thing, the second should be known within the first few minutes (seconds if your a man) . i’ll also relate that i feel out of step with women at both ends of the spectrum. keep in mind this is my uncle’s second wife, and she’s just a few years older than his daughter from his first marriage. his “usual” way of doing thing wasn’t working for him. abc news:“the good news is that men who marry later may be more financially stable and emotionally mature,” says popenoe. comments like hers implicitly tell the manosphere “yes, you’re right. i’m 22 and i have seen guys who are 10+ years older that i thought were attract but never would get involved with them with out an incentive (established in his career, good finances, maturity ect). though susan apparently doesn’t think this of her husband, she is certainly giving voice to those who do. no matter what he’s telling himself on his setting page, a 30 year-old man spends as much time messaging 18 and 19 year-olds as he does women his own age. like this comment from the cappy cap link:“no one seems to understand when i say that if i knew i was going to die the next day, i would amputate, cook, and eat as much of my body as i could, just to see how it tasted.@jrd, yes, in manosphere terms i’m “past my prime”if you were interested in being a bar skank, than you might be past your prime, but if you are interested in being a great mother, you are probably riding the wave right now. i know that this has been said quite a few times before, but it’s always worth repeating. i must start from the position you are not; sorry but every woman in my life has convinced me that you are all out to take advantage of me. wanted the wafer thin model types he was used to from manhattan.@ deti – you need to read this rational male post:@le bieli never thought i’d be happy to link to rollo, but that post on desire is excellent., so you did extremely well in junior high, were the 4th cutest girl in hs (though, no takers), did not have one average, or below average, looking girlfriend in college…is it possible that you account of what was typical for a girl in the late 70’s was not as common as you think it is/was? lol in general, i would say his “betafication” made him even more attractive and suited for an ltr and in most cases wouldn’t lead to his death. this is subtext for ” no matter how normal i appear on the surface, you are about to become the catalyst and custodian of some inner demon or dark secret that i’ve managed to contain for years” .) yet is less fire-n-brimstone (and definitely much more erudite) than many –i’d say most– branches of christianity. (except around his dad, unfortch 🙁 ) and the actor sounds like he has an awesome life, too., can you not see that the disgust for rp is borne out of his awful treatment of others?’s far from ugly, to the point where i ascribe anyone calling him such to a negative halo effect from the scandali find his looks very rodent-like. believe the term of art in this situation is “negress. i know that this has been said quite a few times before, but it’s always worth repeating. i’ve never taken a man for a ride i’ve been open to hearing their past experiences and try hard not to judge people.. because he has to have dinner with his kids every night . (technically, sloppy seconds is a second man in the same night. the shit test post:“this led commenter dream puppy to share an example from her own married life, one where she lobbed a massive shit test at her husband””it would have been nice if i actually learned about this shit test thing when i was younger. after you are married with kids, men seem to think that flying southwest to akron ohio and staying at the airport hilton, while they are going to a work-related conference is a good vacation.@vd: “(raises hand) some of us do value this little thing called “western civilization”. then, here is my question for you americans: isn’t just befriending someone from the opposite sex (that is, making a friend band which goes together to social events, everyone pays for each other, no romance implied) considered weird in usa nowadays?@j:“in america, prior to about 1950, it was possible to sue and/or jail a man for “breech of promise” in the circumstances described in the article you linked. did this once and vowed to never do it again due to the pain i had inflicted.@tedd:also, don’t worry, i’ve now accepted the fact that i’m really a transsexual lesbian, so don’t take my perspective as though it came from a man. i do though have hope that a real man still exists for me out there.@zach:“obviously charles manson is an extreme example, but it’s absolutely true., j:she wasn’t talking about perelman being an asshole, or even about his being undesirable as a man because of an unattractive personality or distasteful behavior.

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however, you aren’t entitled to either one, no woman owes you either one. probably was the most intelligent person in the (relatively small) class (and, given my stellar social skills, i expressed this concept), which didn’t help anything at all. ”sweetheart (and i mean that in the best way possible, no condescension here) it is far too late to ‘save’ me from myself on this. and this is coming from someone who did not like him at all at first. because i came of age pre-internet and blogs were not available to me, i didn’t discover until after i was already married to a man only a year older than me that as an 18-22 i was supposed to be hot for men at least 10 years older than me. i do think personally that the idea that women in their 50 by and large truly want a man is not a self-evident truth.' on the first date, i've had a guy take my hand and rub my shoulders, without any words of seduction or romance.’m looking at this more from a single/partnered with no kids kinda scenario, so i wasn’t really considering how much of an advantage having family nearby is with kids, despite the fact that i’ve enjoyed those advantages all of my married life. but i’m still curious about this resistance: is it a form of jealousy-shaming from their peers; a way of assuring no one escapes the herd, gets to jump ahead in the status game?”don’t the emails contain a link to manage your subscription? you can prepare a lovely italian meal for a guy, and all of a sudden he brings up the fact his ex made the best lasagna of all time. you might think this was just code for “no jews” but it wasn’t, jewish businessesmen were included (not in particularly great numbers) but gentile movie people were verboten.’s girl seems a little high strung, from his description. on top of that, her language and concerns (sloppy seconds, thinking he would brag about going to second base) would suggest that she is, at best, emotionally stunted in this area and, at worst, full of real hang ups. only he doesn't want to change his life or schedule one iota for her. like you, i am interested in someone in his 50’s. by the time i met my husband, i saw an attractive guy with an artistic bent who was getting his mba.’d truly love to get into this with you, but i don’t know if here is the right place, and i do enough derailing as it is., while the manosphere can complain about the smp today in comparison to the monogamy of recent history, they should remember that for much of ancient history omegas and deltas would have much bigger problems than getting laid. the demand curve does drop off sharply, from the perspective of the woman in her early to mid 20s. reasonably healthy and energetic men our age also has been tricky, but, again, not too hard where i live (sf bay area), where many men and women are active and fit and have healthy lifestyles. the tables may turn at 30 in terms of male/female smv trajectory *potential*, but a man still has to run the table to reap the benefit. sure, i can believe jesus was the son of god, just like i am, and every other man is.@jl125what’s the psychology in dating an older man who looks young? in both scenario, either i or another person, couldn’t come up with anything more than ‘keep your chin up’ or things that sounds awfully close to “man up” when on the receiving end. he trades on his family influence, has to buy his women, and is also overshadowed by jamie and ned. this is especially true when it comes to the perception of men in society who are constantly dating different women.. he met someone later that night or the next day who gave him a better vibe and he’s been fucking her like a raging bull ever sense; or. each experience can help you identify better matches and polish your own skills, without this fear of promiscuity and destroying lives by “using people for entertainment. did you actually notice that he might have been crushing on you ever so slightly before he actually burst open with his declaration of undying and eternal j love? this is to some extent reflecting my own experience and prejudices regarding the reality of nyc, perhaps the world capital of attention-deficit combat dating. but i bet i could have managed a decade, perhaps even a little more. zach has not indicated that he has done so in his posts. not only that, if a woman enjoys regular sex, chances are that when she is over forty her husband may have less of a libido or ed issues.@ramble“uh, jackie, tons of guys go whiteknighting thinking that this is the path to success and then become crestfallen when they see the girl with the guy in that shitty band. three of them followed that scenario in their early twenties and married well in their late 20s and early 30s."the biggest turn-off for me is when a divorced man compares you to their ex-wife.@ted d but keep in mind, the ‘sphere tends to collect the “herb” type men after they’ve been burned, so perhaps many of them have indeed been in marriages where no or little attraction was ever present.@charlotte:the most important thing to remember is that cooper is not an “older guy” within the context of this post. the way that i look at it which unfortunately most of the women of today aren’t that nice at all since many of them have really changed for the worst of all. found this site when i googled “why bother…” in regard to seeking a life partner. – “imagine that you are dating a woman and have been for two years. i don’t think women have any idea that many men in their 30s would like to settle down… i think it’s a direct result of the culture that says all men want is sex. jeff and i have a great time, i like this kid. i’m talking about any woman that has behaved in a slutty manner at all, regardless of their actual inclinations. she (the lady in her 40s) is only a few years away. all the more reason for the girl in her 20s to go for a guy in his 20s. it truly is unfortunate for the children to be in this position, but i have not lost the perspective of family and commitment, like so many seem to do when mid-life comes knocking. usually when people contemplate suicide it means they think it isn’t worth living here in this particular environment. in mind, it depends on the woman’s age – but the female preference for a man just 4 years older is real, and few women will go up 10 years without significant financial inducement. of raising them to be better people that the vast majority, there isn’t much i can do legally to fix any of this but bitch and complain..“there has to be some kind of detente from one side or the other to resolve this. or should you end your relationship and explore a relationship with the woman at work? my brother thought this was wonderful, and he could not understand my total disgust with this pc nonsense.“i think it’s fair to say that any woman who marries you in future is a fool. i was in the eighth grade and he was a freshman at the high school. no one comes out right of the gate and just effortlessly picks up a skill and becomes talented in a matter of weeks or months – and fwiw, even with my tested ~145 iq i wasn’t able to take many shortcuts. thats the only thing on this whole post that keeps me out of the cave with cooper, though for totally different reasons.”well, if you are a size zero anorexic, you are certainly less likely to have womanly curves. it’s not that i would demand something of someone else. i bet his wives won’t put out for him. girlfriend wants a man who can “support” her in case ever loses her job. 🙁and i would be interested to know the attachment style/family history of mm as well., this site sometimes has in my view its posts kewed or flawed, and, as i mentioned before, many a comment unnecessarily vulgar (vulgarity killed the cat), but it is essentially well intentioned. that’s really all i’ve been saying charlotte should do but you’ve responded as if i were making some paleolithic demand. i know that this principle of least interest thing is not the best strategy, but it is sort of in my nature to do that. was trying to be funny based on the fact that this expisode was clearly unintentional and handled well on your part. finally my friend asked how old his daughter was, and the guy replied, "20"!, for some reason i thought you were in your late 30s…ok, got it. study published in nature finds that the age at which a father sires children determines how many mutations those offspring inherit. seeing hubby as a capable loving involved father makes him more sexy to my eyes and it brings another level of his personality that i never saw before.”i think this is one of the problems in life; you are generally going to find someone you like better because you are going to continue to be exposed to new people as you move forward in life., i believe that this has more influence on the growing college gender ratio skew than discrimination against boys in school. i found that virtually everyone was spinning plates to some extent (perhaps not sexually with all plates—there might be an ex who is now an fwb over here, two or three new pre-sex prospects over here, a long-distance situation over there…) and that complexity and intrigue should be assumed. and so the knight of la mancha tilting at windmills ”but yeah, the heritage thing is a nice touch. it’s this default hard-wired bias which probably explains why there is no equivalent to the raw-sex-gay-bar scene amongst women. another post, i think it was ramble who noted how women’s tastes tend to change as they get older, so a type of man who might not have interested her at 20 looks pretty good at 30. an older man *may* have the ability to attract younger women, but this is because he has elevated himself above the majority of other men, younger and older – largely in spite of his age not merely because of it, and he must continue to work at it.. david buss’ study of sex differences in human mate preferences found that preferences around age were quite consistent for women:ideal age difference for women: male 3. my brother thought this was wonderful, and he could not understand my total disgust with this pc nonsense.@deti“she’s throwing gasoline on that fire by breaking bad on a guy like ron perelman because he’s unattractive. the idea of waking up next to ron perelman (i can’t even bear to think about going to sleep with him) is enough to make me want to run away to the other side of the country and wait tables. did sting for a day or two but i bucked up and congratulated myself for dodging a bullet. i opened the door and this woman had the president of pike’s head pressed firmly into her cleavage.“i do not believe that most males would welcome this approach. i know you are used to pushing back on woman haters and their ilk, but *i* am not one of them, and i don’t think most of the guys here are either. in many ways, dating men is still the same as when you were in your twenties – communication remains key, intimacy is still awkward – but, with age and experience, comes some key differences. but you have never felt this degree of longing before, for any woman. if you can learn this way of relating to men, you’ll have a competitive edge over women who haven’t got a clue. of course this will involve a large amount of beer. i am 33, and would like to marry a woman about 20 years younger than me. i’m “all in” this time around, but he’s got a wall up, and is keeping his heart guarded. i’ve probably had more than my fair share of men in this lifetime already, anyway. women, as an evolutionary rule, did not mate with older men with status and resources, and stuck to hard and fast age limits as women have described in this thread, then the drive of men to secure such resources beyond the minimum amount to attain a wife in their physical attractiveness bracket would have been bred out long ago. in many cases, that precipitous drop-off has to do with a natural decrease in testosterone, the male sex hormone that allows you to sustain an erection, ejaculate and have an orgasm. after two months, the woman at work asks to get off the project. at that point, she had said he was so nice and funny (he really was a cool guy) but i had no idea if she was interested in him romantically. no chance to scare guys off because wearing fashionable clothes, and not that many gays there i guess too.”saturday 🙂 with my mil 🙁“you know that your history is entwined with these feelings. this something you see in a lot of men, or just a few that are at the ends of the bell curve of the ones you’ve dated? mind you, this was after the former story so i was probably not escalating. he’s going to talk to all those other girls because guys think they have to play this game to get girls like you’s interest. if men see me as the enemy because i think ron perelman is gross in every way, including physically, they’ve got issues. it is always good to give a man something new to look at. two different animals entirely”i realize that this may be the case for most college kids you know, but very few of the small number of kids around me that manage to actually go to college leave home to do so. lifting is a good example of this in terms of the physical body. so, to be honest, i just don’t see much of this “i can’t get involved in college because i’ll be moving away in 4 years” stuff you deal with regularly. i’m also pointing out that this attitude, which susan has given voice to, is one of the primary reasons the manosphere exists. if a quality is intrinsic, why would it ever need to be announced…it actually has the opposite effect…”i always shake my head when i see or hear a woman identify herself as “independent”. to a parent like that, you are an angel temporarily disguised in human form. the irony to this , is that the majority of these men are over weight themselves,bald,and i see them inviting women into their hotel/motel rooms in every town they travel to. in many ways this reminds me of most men i meet my age–they have the means to go on incredible adventures–but they chose to stay mored to a dock and let barnacles grow on them.” many of us don’t want to re-create the dynamic we had: live together, cook and clean for another, etc. i know our culture has tons of sex, but think both men and women long for a bit of romance, from time to time.. online dating offers a traditional dating model, though its success among women in their early 20s is mixed, as many are reluctant to go with the “blind date” approach so quickly. instead of going for a fat, ugly boor she could opt for some ib all-star half his age making a very nice living indeed. (i probably have the details wrong here but…)so, you being restricted still have some historical pock marks, but you seem to be saying “if you guys would just lay off the real sluts, the rest of us women out here are just lovely. all feminism is about is the right to be treated like a human being–not like a sex toy, an incubator, and a servant. *shrug*please stop painting me out to be a woman hater, you and i both know it isn’t true. coupledom is not for everyone — bella depaulo writes about this a lot.@spivak“plus, unless she’s going topless no one can see those “big brown south asian boobies and delectable chocolate nipples”. if think marriage is about being a servant to the man, then you have a warped view of marriage! and others addressing this point:personally, find a gap of more than ten years problematic. however, i do agree the scrutiny on men is ridiculous since it is women that are delaying marriage and thus, many men remained unmarried.’ll agree that the ‘sphere overinflates a lot of stuff.@sw“weird, for some reason i thought you were in your late 30s…”funny story, i’ve been getting that since i was 15. women don’t realize this statement alone will make 90% of the men disappear entirely, the other 10% having some sort of dominance fetish.. most women regardless of age, will see his lack of exposure and experience as a huge red flag. so, to you the ‘average’ woman with a few flings under her belt is normal, to me she might as well have an n of 20. all in all, i need to stop reading this blog because it’s depressing for someone my age who, according to you, seems to have missed the happily ever after boat; you offer no hope for my situation. within an hour of posting my profile, i got contacted by a “young man” of 49. the idea of waking up next to ron perelman (i can’t even bear to think about going to sleep with him) is enough to make me want to run away to the other side of the country and wait tables.’ll say it again: i have never met a young woman who was interested in going on dates, being in a relationship, or marrying for the purpose of “extracting resources. should add that if a man must have the following to secure the unconditional love of an college-educated attractive young woman (~18-25):-above average resources compared to the us population, even though resources take decades for a man to accumulate. he ages, like a fine wine, his awesomeness will increase somehow, as if by magic and he will be the target of a massive unplanned intragirl war, out of which he will emerge the victor and the older cohort of girls will lose, finding themselves relegated to men under the age of 25 in despair. recent study looked into why older women — in this case, women in their 60s and 70s — date. i believe many woman in my age group will relate to this. if she wasn’t interested in him then why would she care about what he says to his friends? i’m also pointing out that a sizable number of the men in the 80%, the betas, deltas and gammas, and the betas susan says she wants women to meet, date and marry, are going to resemble perelman physically (short, fat and physically unattractive) even if they don’t resemble his personality. the fourth time, the point is this: there’s a lot of anger and bitterness and hostility in the manosphere. but here’s a conclusion that is right out of the age of romantic novels:what men want“most of the men in these groups want to marry at some future time in their lives,” the researchers conclude. while i recognize his pain, i also recognize that similar comments irl will get you committed. for that small-but-vocal minority to realize that and accept that, instead of churlishly howling on blogs, they need to get on with their lives, that is a challenge that the (wo)manospheres should embraced as a goal.”it is true that the longer a man dates, it is less likely that he will be satisfied with the one he will marry. purposely re-enacting detrimental behavior (in this case, really dangerous– stis, pregnancy 😯 ), saying you’re setting the conditions is really common among people who’ve experienced abuse or trauma. i think so many guys just totally give up on themselves physically around age 30-35; one of the major social benefits of widespread “game” exposure may be that some guys get a motivational kick to get in shape, learn how to dress in flattering and age-appropriate ways, etc. a good example of this is semester abroad romances, which are very common and can be very intense. i think many men like you have little interest in very young women. suffice it to say that all the fire and brimstone i spout here about promiscuous woman has been sprayed against men in other venues. thing is i meet a lovely man who i now love very much….@j“that may be pretty descriptive of the greek scene, but outside that scene i don’t think most girls date two guys and have have some romantic contact with two others in three weeks. to not be with a woman is not necessarily a default position but it is becoming a rational decision of choice. had his own job, made his own money, had sex anytime he wanted with a kinky and very good-looking woman – for free. this post is specifically written for women in their 20s. i think many people today no matter what age they are, still are looking for the same thing, someone to make their life more enjoyable when they come home after work. this blog is getting definetely better with more female commenters 🙂as for your comment, think about it that way: imagine you have male friend, who is 45 years old. those run about in this order: hot, high maintenance, catty, potential gold-digger (fashion pays like shit, nyc is expensive).”it’s kind of hard to know this until you really are married to somebody. see, i and many men i know never went through that “bleach blonde” phase, so although i understand the stereotype you were shooting for, it is only because i’ve seen it in popular culture. i remember one time i complimented a girl on her singing after a talent show and she later sent me an email gushing about how much that meant to her, because she knew i didn’t hand out compliments lightly.“in india, having sex with a woman by falsely saying you will marry her is considered rape. ironically, women statistically have the best chances of snagging a ltr-oriented guy when he’s in his mid-20s…. nothing serious, but the thought did enter my mind and my mind said, “well before we go, we gotta do all this stuff then” and boom, my life became much more interesting. they only want a toy to play with; though many women are just as bad. my wife does not exactly have warm memories of me pawning off my daughter in such a manner. this means he will leave her a widow for 30+ years, during a time when she has near zero dating value”. realize this will be a very unpopular opinion, but i don’t understand why people will put off getting married because of a pregnancy. granted, a month later he turned 25, but he was wiser, more eloquent and more mature in the spiritual/emotional sense than even many men who have years on him. but, for this to be credibly operational, monogamy must be enforced. i don’t know if this was the policy or just the accident, but i enjoyed the diversity of people my children will never have (and, thanks god for that! that is something that has changed and that you mention in this article: being more selective., if you're in your 50s, single and dating (and feeling like you're not getting anywhere), consider this a little friendly feedback from the ladies.@intj, tedin susan’s defense, usually the claim in the manosphere is that the carouselers “settle” for the beta to whom they aren’t attracted, since they can’t snag the more wild types for commitment, but are always secretly hoping to trade up from him. this is an example of the thought processes constantly running around in my head, and on occasion keeping me up at night. if i meet a great guy at this stage, not even sure if i want to get married now. this is the 40-something man-child who still doesn't know how to make plans in advance and can't stick to any type of schedule. but the ports are still very strong, it’s still massively important transit and rail hub, and light manufacturing is doing ok across a range of products.] believe this stems from the fact that males are more likely to end their lives through effective violent means (guns, knives, hanging, etc. one thing i’ve seen psychologists express concern about is that people don’t have a serious relationship at all until their late 20s, and then that marry that person. i think many middle-aged *people* don’t need to date or be in relationships to be happy. because i am trying to live this, and see myself falling short all the time. seems when it comes to the dating world, the us woman over 50 is at the bottom of the pile…. even though they are cast as the “rational, thinking” type in so many spheres. around this time last year, i was pulling 60-80 hour workweeks, but i still managed to carved out time for dates. i don’t ever want them to look at a woman they love and care about and think less of her because of these types of past incidents. 🙁could you explain this:“besides, i was always more of an old testament kinda guy. i’m 22 and it does occasionally happen that i meet a man in his 40s i find attractive. this is all of course assuming i could attact a significantly younger woman, which is not a given. but now, over a year later, he is starting to become a real catch, but too late!

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Reentering the Dating Scene After Divorce | Focus on the Family

my sons looked up to his son who was olsder than they are. i wasn’t about to jeopardize my marriage for him, but i did consider him a damn good friend, did not feel that he was trying to take advantage of me, and knew he couldn’t cheat on his wife no matter how much he fantasized about it.“lol, that post i wrote about that shit test has gone viral on reddit half a dozen times, been featured prominently on pua forums all over the place, and generally made me the least popular woman that nobody ever heard of in america. i mean just because a man courts you several times doesn’t mean you “owe” him anything. a younger man still wants sex while i want love and affection (which i get from my kids and family) and never from a mate. i didn’t realize that i had a vitamin d deficiency, caused by too many months of no sunlight. this is difficult when doing the hard work to prepare yourself for that is quite often a huge negative for guys in terms of short term smv and social standing, and telling them they will be rewarded 15 years later with sloppy thirtieths is cold comfort."getting involved with a guy who's still reeling from his divorce can sometimes feel like he's having an affair, except that the 'other woman' isn't a woman, it's his anger. they broke up a few years later; this affected how she viewed things.@ji hadn’t even read that james hooker story, but now that i have i’m surprised rollo held this up as an example of a good match with an age difference. like escoffier, i don’t quite buy the argument that a man can have unmarried sex, but not women.’s related to grasping the underlying unity of the concept.), family-oriented and ready to be with a man who knows how to lead. hypergamy is hypergamy, i know, but its “g factor” cannot be quite so possibly attuned as to draw so many women to such a tiny subset of men.“i would never want a man to marry me because we’d been in an ltr together. to say, this relationship didn’t exactly work out and i never had any interest in inquiring further. – man, if i had a million dollars i wouldn’t be on here, but if you think you can get blood from a turnip, knock yourself out. otherwise, you’re living a lie and robbing me of a real opportunity to marry someone who loves me the way you now love the other woman. me this article rings as hollow and contrived as all those profiles on match. this was a perfect article for how i am feeling today and i enjoyed the comments as well. there is a really good chance that, at this point, she will really enjoy the touching. he had a very volatile relationship with his son, who dropped out of high school and hit the road. is obviously gonna depend on the guy in question but theres a sweet spot that can maximize a woman’s comfort zone whilst maximizing her number of prospective mates. i know that if our relationship should come to an end, it will be done in a respectful and loving manner. it possible that you account of what was typical for a girl in the late 70′s was not as common as you think it is/was? – “in susan’s defense, usually the claim in the manosphere is that the carouselers “settle” for the beta to whom they aren’t attracted, since they can’t snag the more wild types for commitment, but are always secretly hoping to trade up from him.”…fathers passed on nearly four times as many new mutations as mothers: on average, 55 versus 14.”oh i’m well aware of that, which is why at this point i think the only thing that will “save” us is a total collapse, but my fear is that in most cases the regime that replaces what was lost is rarely any better, and often much worse. this idea that women seek different traits for ltrs is not exactly novel or new. many of them, especially the ltr-oriented, are likely to interpret your initial interest as a positve sign for their own suit only to find you pull back later when you perceive them as getting “too serious. you’re starting with a woman that is already 25, by the time they’re ready to have that kid they’re already cutting it awfully close to the fertility decline. but if a man expresses that same sentiment in public and in writing about unattractive and overweight women, he’s a sexist pig jerk.” imagine that you are dating a woman and have been for two years. and hey, let’s toss in some man shaming based on his age and the fact that he still thinks much younger women are hot and it will be a perfect double score! a week later, he emails again, saying, "hey, want to meet up? haven’t spoken to a single young man in the last four years who wants to marry before his late 20s at the earliest.”””i’m pretty sure that this is also the source of my primary philosophy, that i only got one shot at having sex, and i was basically required to follow through and get married if i did choose to engage in pre-marital sex. i agreed, and we played a doubles game with some of his friends. helped me realize a single life is the right choice for me and now i realize and understand why other older women have taken this choice as ., ‘jay’ is not a woman hater for having an opinion – which, alot i agree with. i’ve loved everyone of them and i sometimes file away the longer ones for later reminders. as stupid as anyone who would judge a woman for being single at 40 or 30 or 22. we were married for 15 years, so i didn’t live on my own and learn to be independent until much later. a woman forfeits some male smv if she goes over that, but it’s still worth the tradeoff until about age 35 or so. because his company wants him to do a gig in london for 2-4 years, and you have no idea how the hell you would ever get a job in london. this thread has confirmed that i shouldn’t waste his time if i’m not really feeling him.” but if a man expresses that same sentiment in public and in writing about unattractive and overweight women, he’s a sexist pig jerk. you’re getting a lot of input from men in their 40s here.“but a guy in his 40′s shooting for a 22yo woman is a pervert, and let’s not even talk about those 50+ guys! they just have not found the right woman yet and will keep trying until they do., i don’t think it’s fair to say this girl is “sexually repressed. i’m currently wrapping the print version of this educational manual.@ olive:i wanted to clarify that i do disagree with this take on the situation. he was an overly romantic/sentimental type, and he would tell me things that would make my skin crawl. believe the term of art in this situation is “negress. you are most certainly not the man i recommend, lol., but this is not a committed relationship, this is date three. remember, this was all arising out of that passage quoted above from the book about what she wanted to fuck when she was 20 and what she wanted to have come home to her when she 30. if you never got asked to prom, then you can probably relate well to a whole lot of men who had to wait (or are still waiting) to see their smv rise into view – and that’s a good thing. however, and this is important, i am not looking to give girls eating disorders by having females on popular shows be dumped for gaining 17 ounces. it is not fair, we take care of ourselves then hormones go away and we are stuck with this new look. many middle aged men don’t need to date or be in relationships to be happy. despite what hollywood may-december pairings suggest, gibson says a man in his 50s wants to date a woman close to his own age. stumbled upon this website while googling because i wondered if i was weird. night of serious fooling aroundand this was not the least bit slutty.😉plus, unless she’s going topless no one can see those “big brown south asian boobies and delectable chocolate nipples”., i had in the back of my mind that she was in her late ’20s. the great male survey at ask men:it has been said over and over again that today’s couples are choosing to marry later in life. there aren’t too many options beyond that except an arranged marriage, which happens in certain culture here and elsewhere, or a matchmaking service. one thing i’ve seen psychologists express concern about is that people don’t have a serious relationship at all until their late 20s, and then that marry that person., unless calibrated against the woman’s menstrual cycles, that doesn’t mean anything. should be a link to manage your subscriptions – go there and uncheck. might sound silly, but i really never put much thought into individual people throughout my life, and it’s taken me far longer than most to understand that although we are all human, we have as many or more differences between us than things we share in common, especially when it comes to personality and character. hate sounding like my grandfather, but man i could really rip shit up if i could go back to my 18yo body with my 42yo knowledge. i find it ironic, if this incident is true, that mark manson likes to talk about “authenticity” a lot. the idea of waking up next to ron perelman (i can’t even bear to think about going to sleep with him) is enough to make me want to run away to the other side of the country and wait tables.@susanre: rp & eb– i believe that marriage (his 4th, i think? like these are also a big part of why there is anger and hostility in the ‘sphere; and why many men don’t see susan and this blog as allies. i am sensetive on this point because i broke at least one heart in a similar way, even though i ended it reasonably close to the point i realized marriage was not going to happen. a relationship is catastrophic when both are “retired” because now the woman has 5x the work while my mate thought being retired was doing nothing. this means ages 25 to 55 is best for women to date. as a young woman in her 20s and early 30s she was sexy as hell.’ve been in an on-again, off-again relationship with a wonderful man (he’s 59 now) for just over 3 years. there was this enormous 24-lb cat that was khal drogo and a dainty butterscotch named khaleesi; there was a cersei (who was, sorry to say, a huge witch) and a jaimie from the same litter (put in cages far away from each other! he was very good looking, but kind of a mess emotionally, he had a terrible relationship with his father, who was a high testosterone type who called him a sissy. would any woman want to cover up great looking breasts? just seems that a large number of woman have behaved “unrestricted” at some point in their lives regardless of their actual nature, yet i know plenty of men that have never acted “unrestricted” either by choice or circumstances. so, 3 children, 7 grandchildren and 0k later, i’m living a life that suits me much better. one woman wrote to me that she waited 6 weeks after describing herself as severely depressed. when i was 18 and a man in his 30s hit on me, i couldn’t understand why that old man thought i would be interested in him. honestly don’t understand how you are concerned about hollywood telling lies about this, seeing as 98% of what we see is wafer-thin actresses on screen. should any woman in a similar situation assume the guy is gonna go and do a pschyo-analysis about the time you cut your barbies hair off when you were 4 and its deeply troubled you which has rendered you asexual until the girlfriend label is introduced. i’m a guy in my early 40s, divorced for 3 years.” please, please, please, all you lurkers out there, never devalve a woman. loved when hope spoke about preferring the longer distance, online dating experience because it gave her ample opportunity to understand a man before she would be too intimate with him. we go to movies, museums and often he cooks dinner for me at his place. we were not very compatible, and i only would have continued hurting his feelings. the manosphere might have started out with good gripes, but susan isn’t the “enemy #1″ here. i think most women don’t struggle with fertility before their mid to late 30s. she ends her prime years at 31, while the male stays in his prime through 36.’ve been reading through the comments on slate, under rosin’s response to fox’s article war on men – where everyone there figures the best response to complianing men is to blame them further. there’s a certain kind of intellectual intuition that makes many math and abstract concepts essentially transparent. gonna do that right now, but i wanted to comment on this:“however, studies have shown that they seek this in their partner, provided there is sexual attraction there to begin with. she’s been riding the alpha cock carousel, has racked up a high number of sexual partners, but now is going to find some sap who will pay her bills and not ask too many questions, and marry him pronto. the “players” know what to say to manufacture the “chemistry” and the “connection”. no guarantees, of course, as many of them have nothing to their name save a mildly humorous twitter account…but you never know who you might meet!”i’m not sure that this parental pressure thing works. was an overly romantic/sentimental type, and he would tell me things that would make my skin crawl. will always be easier for him to find a wife next year than this year, so why rush? but i doubt i will find “the right person” at this point in my life…but who knows. his interest as a religious guy is fine, but there’s generalised hus goodyness there too, i reckon. no “dude, you should just do such and such” or “buck up, man.”ah, maybe that is because i tend to not over-exaggerate the effects of something, the way certain folks in the manosphere shriek every time a woman says something remotely “bad” about any man. i am 33, and would like to marry a woman about 20 years younger than me.” the typical response is “where are getting this craziness coming from?, this is mostly with white men, but if hip hop videos are to be used as a metric, it would seem that black men are also quite open to the idea of asian women as being beautiful.: “i do think that women dating guys in their 30s need to be very careful to make sure this is not the case – he should have a history of ltrs rather than strictly strs…”i agree. irony is, i don’t hate women in general but after dating online, you can see women who lived with their husbands until their house was paid off or their schools loans paid and or both and then had the court take his kids away and put his ass out on the street as part of a divorce settlement along with a substantial awarding of monies.’d say, we in central and eastern europe are blessed in that you can find even our feministic protest events quite enjoyable: ukrainian feminists i’d love to … met(per analogy to milf, this would be ufilf). i asked desi the same question this summer, when it came up with the girl he met at the pool. very few 20 year olds are in this place of enjoyment, financial stability+happiness with family/life-don’t assume you know anything regarding me. you know, when i feel like i’m starting to give up the selfishness because this guy is really “worth it”. are plenty of late 20’s, early 30’s guys i find attractive, but i wouldn’t feel confident in dating somebody who was much older. point is that this sort of response is going to happen, even though it is unjustified. i haven’t had a relationship for 17 years, i have not been able to find anyone my own age who has a good head on his shoulders and is even remotely attractive socially, physically or otherwise by anyones standards.”at what point did you realize that you had woven the perfect web of intrigue with which to catch and trap this poor unsuspecting chap? a week later, he emails you, "hey, what are you up to?!After reading many of the submissions … maybe i am with the wrong woman. many days did you get up to before you had the hallucinations? so at what point do women suddenly become turned off to this notion of an age gap? most societies have strict rules or norms around age differences, and also when a woman is fair game for seduction. susan indicates that he probably wasn’t getting laid (understandably) in his marriage because he was fat, sweaty and gross. i can tell you that women have as much interest in sex, intimacy and having fun as men do and are often looking for a man who is comfortable with himself and is willing to accept a woman the way she is when he meets her. can be romantic and take the lead, but exercise patience. they broke up a few years later; this affected how she viewed things. there are over 50 women who lose their sex drive+others who increase it due to decreasing demands from children., what is “dating around” going to lead to when the girl knows that she doesn’t want an ltr at this stage and does not want to marry until she been through *at least* 2-3 bfs? if a 21 year old woman wants to hitch her wagon to a 60yo mans truck, i have no issue with it at all. a 50 year old man is more likely to be in the “well off” league, but well off doesn’t get you candice swanepoel. he doesn’t fly loose and free with his intimacy, and he takes ltr seriously, which seems to be a long dead trend. you must have taken many photos and of all types to try to show who you are and in the best vantage point. true story: one friend was dating this guy who kept using kid excuses not to see her. perhaps in years long gone there were just as many unrestricted folks as there are now, but social pressure kept their behavior in check.• tags: dating advice, dating an older man, david buss, mate preferences, relationship advice, sex differences, the frisky. remember, i’m only recommending this as one possible strategy. i bought my own home after i got divprced, and it was not from alimony, i got nothing when i got divorced. course, remember i don’t believe in spinning plates either. in most cases this would drive away women that had initially shown interest but in some cases it made them fall hard and then enter excessive pickiness. he will ostensibly still be better off than if he had settled for a less attractive woman when he was younger. which is why many choose to live apart from their romantic partners, as i do. i think there’s a “gamer stereotype” that gets passed around among people who don’t know very many gamers personally.”it’s too late to deny whatever it is that you’re denying here. i already said she sounds endearing to me, and the more we talk the more i find myself thinking that i would take all the time necessary to get into this woman’s world. i don’t have the links now but this preference is reflected in the mean marital ages of both sexes.“and my manic episode/subsequent hospitalization and grad school dropout.@susan:“missing me while he is supposed to be managing a portfolio sounds like bad news for investors. at this point, she sounds about as fun as a wet mop. feel like i shouldn’t even be thinking about this still, since it was 3 weeks ago, but because the rest of guys i meet are such cads, these two seemed like winners. look at this beautiful face:Hey cooper, what say we build a time machine and go beat up future cooper and future intj for hogging all the girls? course, this is all just based on a few long comments by her (and sometimes reading between the lines), so maybe she’s totally different than how she strikes the guys here. (this also goes to show that not all men want somebody who’s super-submissive. you must have done research on all of this in eight years of the futility of online dating. at this age it is almost impossible to meet someone, especially for an introvert.,yeah, that is one side of the mansphere that seems a bit whacky to me(like those desktop pua’s that pick-up 9’s and10’s every night without leaving their chairs). husband (like hope’s) told me stop reading a certain manosphere blog because of the nasty and vile things said there. will always be easier for him to find a wife next year than this year, so why rush? his lover briefly left him after he was discovered to have had an earlier relationship with a minor student. if a man dates many women and is single past a certain age, women often make the assumption that he must be flawed in some way, a womanizer or a man that refuse to grow up. been divorced for only 18 months and dating is true my abysmal! has to be a reason they are divorced, especially more than once, and i doubt very much that it was all his fault.@ted d“man, some days i think i might have sold myself short. realize that this post marginalizes the coopers and the kendras. i think most women would agree he is extremely unattractive, with smv about equal to his wife’s. he’ll figure out his real mmv/smv soon enough. he was not handsome as a young man, nor was holly pretty as a young woman. is why many of us good men are still single today says:December 9, 2016 at 1:26 pm. deep down, he knew his confession would go nowhere; he just had to hear, “sorry, not interested."nothing is a bigger turn-on to a woman in her 50s than a man that makes her feel like she's the best thing that ever happened to him.”if a woman can’t get the attention of men 3.’m pretty proud of the fact that she had no idea i was terrified and just thought it was my awkwardness at being with a new woman after 12 years of marriage. have never however done impromptu performances of sappy love songs in front of a crowd (unless asked for). i bet his wives won’t put out for him. as i note in the blog, if a woman has spent a good part of her life caretaking others — a husband (or husbands), kids, aging parents — we do get to a point where we feel it’s “my time. i am a 5’6″ blonde, female, mother , educated masters degree, good job, funny, 135 lbs, healthy, active, caring, happy, life loving, pet toy poodle love, inquisitive, researching, gardening, man loving and i mean love of a real man, not a mama’s boy, but as a real woman and a real man relationship that requires two to stand up and be grown-up when it comes to being responsible for self!-stringent requirement as to not be more than a few years older than the woman… then you pretty much just have a caste mating system because you simply cannot have youth, appearance, and resources in the same man unless it is inherited, and this is speaking as someone that jumped from a working class family to umc well before he was 30.@j“i will occasionally slip in a manosphere trope like, “would you like me better if i were more submissive? 😉this reminds me of another example of how history was unkind to beta males. i thank karma every day for sending this quietly confident and wonderful man my way. the manosphere might have started out with good gripes, but susan isn’t the “enemy #1” here.

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i may miss out on some good people on occasion, but i don’t want many friends anyway., you might as reasonably have said that he is the tallest man on the show because the men you regard as tall are much different than many of the definitions you’ve seen.@escoffiereven men who meet this floor still often cannot find women who want to marry them because, remember, most women don’t want equals, they want to marry “up. but most of them got attacked, with the men getting killed and the women getting captured… 😀 only a few civilizations managed to get strong enough every once in a while to overcome this barbarity. as a 50 year old single, empty nester, there have been times when i wondered if i’d ever make a connection with another man again. was always complaining that the women in west la were too heavy (as compared with the model thin women in manhattan, i guess). harry sold his share of the firm about 10 years before he died and devoted himself to civic and community philanthropy.“however, you aren’t entitled to either one, no woman owes you either one. that being said, we get plenty of out of town kids here, and perhaps it is this way for them. the history is fascinating, but it has for 70 years been about making films. they tend to wear their letters around, have many all-greek social events, etc.@ramblethe latter, and i’m afraid many men indulge this fantasy. heh poor eater this one ain’t, not sure about the rest hubby is really organized so maybe that will help. men, before you break out into a cold sweat, know that all this is well intended and researched. of course, it’s a matter of preference – i have no objection to a man’s wanting to select a woman with a longer timeframe of fertility. have no quarrel with that demand, it is very reasonable. a single woman would be crazy to take this on. i didn’t feel chemistry with my boyfriend on our first few dates, and neither did he, but we gave each other a chance and a year later, here we are. salvatori, an oilman who helped make reagan’s political career, had to fight like hell to get reagan into the la country club, and he did so by telling the board that since reagan worked for ge, he was an industrialist, not an actor. that’s the bitter part for me, because had i known, not only would i have had more success with women in general (if i wanted it regardless) but i’d have been a much happier young man since i could have just been myself.”fwiw i don’t see the 8 years between my wife and i as any kind of problem at all, and at this point i could easily see 10 years being a non-issue. young, attractive women are always asking him out, paying for his dinner and for the other stuff he has. and later, when my wife got back to work and we decided that i will stay with baby three days a week (i got a work with no fixed hours, so i could do it) at one moment i seriously considered wearing pampers diapers 🙂@intj. otherwise, you’re living a lie and robbing me of a real opportunity to marry someone who loves me the way you now love the other woman., chuck defending the actions of dan, re: working the room, running game, means that chuck is a solid wingman but it is not the same as dan expressing interest himself nor does it not nullify dan’s actual behavior. researchers note that most people think it’s men, not women, who are “dragging their feet about marriage,” and they state “our investigation of male attitudes indicates that there is evidence to support this popular view. and quite possiblely for many years, too, just like my grandmother.. include a 24 year old model and brilliant psychology grad student, and many mid-30’s women… i think i’ll hold off until i find “the one” since my smv is high and will peak with an upcoming income boost. that is way off the reservation here on this blog. if you’re a hot young woman who can’t make rent in a studio apartment and puts a premium on having clothes, shoes, expensive purses, and travel to exotic locales, sleeping with ron perelman probably looks like a dream scenario.. zach and the woman he is seeing; jackie’s comments at 1419 made me think–brilliant observation.“for every year older a man is past a certain age (his physical peak of 28?’s self-confidence is feigned, except for his belief in his intelligence. she was a freshman and got played by a cad, she was devastated.“when my harry passed away three years ago, he was still the same vibrant and wonderful man that i met many years ago in law school.”lots of young guys don’t step up to the plate until they have a reason to do so. he views n in the context of how many offers a woman gets – it is a relative measure that reflects her attractiveness to men.“it amazes me how when a woman first starts dating a man, the men have no problem renting a house boat for a few weeks off the amalfi coast, or riding vespas through the south of france while staying at vineyards. you don’t even allow the small talk with the woman at work. when women are doing the hunting, they can do the choosing – till then, it’s a man’s prerogative… ”lol! it goes strictly against deti’s lectures last week – perhaps you didn’t agree with him about a woman following her husband and putting his career first? men who find themselves single in their 50s have often been married for many years, so they continue to desire the companionship and emotional support they once shared. they’ve already lost one man and don’t want to nursemaid another. there is that i’m looking for a woman interested in marriage…. so basically i’ve resigned myself to spending the rest of my life alone and i’ve accepted this now which was extremely hard to come to terms with. do understand that – the problem occurs when we extrapolate those “herb” experiences to be true of the general population, to the point that awalt. i was rather in awe of the man in that picture, but somehow over the years i completely forgot about it, until just this week. speaking as a 50+, many-years-divorced woman, i am trying to live the life i could not when i was married. simply want a friend to do things with, have a meal with and not have to be a caretaker or to meet what many of my friends call the “established menu”- meaning that quite often with men, they had an ideal when they were 30, it did not work and now they are attempting to have that again… what is so stupid about this is that it could be the freest time they could have and they do not want to budge from their limited scope. it’s not to say that if the timing is right, it will happen, but i’m not going to fuck the city of manhattan and expect to be treated like a high-quality catch. the men i’ve met just going out as soon as they find out how old i am many react very badly and are quite nasty, others i see their body language change as they put me into the “i’d f it but i wouldn’t marry it” box, these men are my age, i’ve stopped telling people how old i am now.!this was pretty much my college experience:weekend 1: social isolation and boredom.”if by “the man”, you mean you and me (i.., his innate understanding of such things allowed him to attend grad school at mit). not many men want to get married at 40, with only 5. this month i’m going to shave it all clean, and see if any comments are made, or if i see any indication at all that she misses it. i love his humor, though some of it goes over my head. people over 50 are having multiple partners without using protection, because many are not used to using contraception, such as condoms. maybe these women find him “ugly sexy” because of his outsized and dominant personality. i guess you could say youth is wasted on the young, and i get that susan is trying to wisen up the freshmen before it’s too late and the axe of turning 30 falls, thus complicating matters somewhat. i have spent time with women from their 40s through mid 50s. don’t know if bringing up briffault’s law is verboten here or not, but in both cases, the woman is benefitting, just in different ways. yet, so many of your posts are crabbing about how bad things are. the only time a woman wants a man is when she needs a man. this point, you may just want to chalk this up to experience and move on. i can’t feel bad because my body is going through menopause and a man won’t be attracted to me for that reason., i think my getting crushes easily and then being picky later was a subconscious short-term mating strategy. of throneswe just finished a “black friday” event at the humane society, where we are trying to adopt out as many animals as we can. we are people too, and i’ll be damned if i let another woman use me again. was a few years ago and was the first time that i ever accomplished this feat. age/maturity does not guaranty that a man will bring those things that a woman isn’t already providing for on her own – even if she is a few years younger. it is fact that many of these women have very severe mental issues and are gay as well since they really hate us men for no reason at all when we really didn’t do anything wrong for us to get cursed at from the beginning.”you said you’ve never met a *single* man who wanted to marry before his late 20s.@intjobviously charles manson is an extreme example, but it’s absolutely true., j will probably have a good concrete suggestion for dealing with your friend, but if you think he is really contemplating suicide i think you should alert his loved ones and urge him to talk to someone asap. the only reason i would give this any weight is his friend chuck sounds like a total loser. i probably see about two guys this ugly per day, and dozens or hundreds of men who look nothing like this. this is why it’s so infuriating for men when they are told they “will get the last laugh” and that it’s a complement to be the marriage material.@esco“in many ways, la has more in common with phoenix that it does with san francisco. it possible that you account of what was typical for a girl in the late 70’s was not as common as you think it is/was? he’ll sit in the swing for a while…william doesn’t really cry unless he is hungry, not even a dirty diaper bother him but he needs to be on top of someone all the time to be this calm and he doesn’t like his cot. i hate to tell you this, but more men look like s*** in middle to old age than do women. i've gathered input from three of my most trusted single girlfriends whose ages range from early 40s to late-50s. he uses his kids as an excuse not to get into a relationship. there are many ways to skin a cat and please each other, and it s always better when the pressure is not on. many n’s can dance on the head of a pin? younger woman, older man thing will always raise brows from both sexes due to jealousy. because she wants a man who will love her fully or whatever. in some sort of self convincing mantra that really comes off as passive aggressive. post can so relate to it wish there were more like you. human beings are naturally motivated to assert their values; to think their values are best; and to be intolerant of people with opposite values. this burning of widows is your custom; prepare the funeral pile. so with this said, yeah i personally have trust issues with what i have observed. because christianity has one standard and it has been this way for hundreds and hundreds of years! ironically, i had already decided to follow one part of his advice… after realizing i hated my major -i figured it would please my parents/god/whoever would punish me hardest -i decided i’d go round the world and have adventures. don’t see too many tropes of marrying the middle-class guy and living “frugally ever after” ha ha!@pvwthis ties in with some of what i felt when i was that age, and it reminds me of something we spoke of earlier, of being teenagers and having grown men hit on us.*it’s perelman’s narcissistic selfishness that makes him repugnant.’s a set of men in my office in their 40s that look after themselves, and while no one would confuse them for a fresh college grad they’re not even close to paunchy, and in fact can still run rings around the mid 20s guys. i can’t relate intelllectuallly or emotionally with younger women and i don’t share in the immense experience of older women. dating in 50’s is so different because we all have baggages, at this age compatible companionship is more important than a marriage, it is so much time consuming for online dating, i don’t like it at all.’t take this the wrong way, but that statement made me feel very sad for you. recently to a woman describe relationship woes with a man ten years older than she is, i noticed her friends were quick to say, “that’s why he’s 32 and single.: we feel the same way; because i didn’t feel mature enough, it seemed wierd that a man that old had an interest in me and that i should be interested in him for that reason.@intjgot doesn’t have as much nudity, but what nudity there is is of considerably higher quality 🙂one of the reasons girls had so many male fans was that it came on right after got. this suggests more of a switch in attraction triggers, not that that will make the guys that were overlooked feel any better with sloppy thirtieths. think the manosphere overstates the tendency of women to drop guys “just because”.: “the son of a bitch cheated on and then later dumped laura ingalls. i want companionship more than sex(nothing a man can do that i can’t do myself) or marriage definitely. the more i focused on “i can do this” the more i saw other stuff i could do. as someone said in this thread, he either wants sex or is interested in finding his future wife. it goes strictly against deti’s lectures last week – perhaps you didn’t agree with him about a woman following her husband and putting his career first? a newly single woman after an eight-plus year relationship, i am curious about what to expect this time, now that i’m 50-something instead of 40-something. honestly don’t understand how you are concerned about hollywood telling lies about this, seeing as 98% of what we see is wafer-thin actresses on screen. again, this goes back to my point about women putting more priority on marriage and family before they start a career. not taking any non-stem classes this semester, so that cuts down on the interactions with girls. henry-type short story about a man who writes a pua blog on the science of seduction. after he moved back from the peace corp, and before he could get a place of his own, he stayed with his parents for a few months., you’ve managed to royally piss off the mras, puas, internet feminazis, and reddit mangina dorks. he just might come around and apologize for bailing due to his big power-point presentation to even busier businesspeople. the problem was that, while he loved his wife and had never been unfaithful to her, she didn’t provide him with the admiration and sense of sharing goals i did. no reason to take advantage of a mentally unstable woman. in what ways was don quixote an interpretation of the age which hitherto had not been articulated? i’ve known several sorority women who would not join if they had to do it again for this reason. this last bit was to make the trans students in the group feel welcome. he doesn’t fly loose and free with his intimacy, and he takes ltr seriously, which seems to be a long dead trend. no man could ever understand what a woman has gone through or how she feels emotionally . and romance aren't dead -- in fact, they're alive and well and much appreciated. there’s a certain kind of intellectual intuition that makes many math and abstract concepts essentially transparent. – “i would love to see you formulate a strategy for that! all the females who commented on not being able to be attracted to an older man when you were say, 18-22 (i believe pvw, madison and a few others said this):a friend of mine, when she was 19, had a stint where she not going to college…she sorta took a year off. they often get played freshman year once, get even more cautious, and promptly become invisible to the frats for the remainder of their college years. the fact that we formed an entire religion and society based on the teachings of jc alone goes against the 10 commandments: thou shalt have no false gods before me. basically, she stopped going to school for a semester, i think that leaving home and going to a far away campus fucked her up (this happened to a few girls i knew, one became so focused on health and exercise that she lost so much bodyfat and stopped getting her period…her parents pulled her out of school [she, literally, had a 4.@susan:“we definitely need some bad boy shaming, and parents are the ones who should be doing this. plus they love to lord it over older women that they can get women of any age, even going overseas on those so-called “romance tours” for mail order brides who are young enough to be their doggone daughters. there are many restricted folks who have a hard time finding partners because the prevailing script (sex first then “see where it goes”.“instead of going for a fat, ugly boor she could opt for some ib all-star half his age making a very nice living indeed.. i might get flamed for this, but i’ll say it anyway. i take your point – in no way should she deceive a young man into thinking he’s going to get a relationship if she’s trying to keep things casual.@zachthis doesn’t really sound like a match, to be perfectly blunt. she even payed his part when she wanted to go out. men are becoming increasingly resentful of this kind of scrutiny that questions their character simply because they are unmarried in their 30s.. i joked a lot with my friends that my life was like a romantic comedy. but the problem for the woman you know is that the guy wasn’t genuinely in love with her.’m a fun active healthy 51 year old man who ended an 11 year relationship 18 months ago. i had previously said i had met 2 women who loved this game, and have to amend that to 3 (forgot one stem woman i know who is a big gamer)…. so many times i’ve “started over” after a rship breakup. the man whom i could care for at thirty would be the normal, safe and substantial sort who would come in at six o’clock, kiss me once, sniff the air twice and say: “mm! men over 50 have lived a life already — many of whom are either widowed or divorced — which means he might be carrying some residual trauma from his past. his daughter ends up being played by a cad who used the lessons directly from her dad’s blog. and may i say i am mightily disappointed in that pic of mark manson? not all dbags and players are so obvious, many are quite charming and can have grown up conversations without groping your ass, so to say.“as for you, i find it hard to believe that you were at the bottom of the pile with those luscious big brown south asian boobies and delectable chocolate nipples. too many times the word cougar is mentioned to which i am highly insulted. i spent the better part of my late teens to early 20’s trying to figure out how to do it, and i finally concluded that it is just in my nature to be an arrogant asshole, and set out to do what i could to minimize the collateral damage.@susan“that’s the manosphere myth – the notion that a woman is likely to cuckold or cheat with some more alpha male during ovulation. i’m having a hard time seeing why you’d accuse me of trapping this man.: mark manson’s “soul mate”that lady once wrote a blog post about how she never uses any birth control.., reneging on a central aspect of the marital compact) because his wife had let herself become fat and gross (more than natural aging should have caused). not all men experience andropause symptoms starting in their late forties, but most experience a decline in vitality due to major decline in testosterone production. i liked his post on the mature man as well. and no relationship is ever going to last if the woman does not have this experience. she doesn’t want a man smarter than her, or anywhere close. even people with worst diseases manage to work around them. an unrestricted woman would be sexing up cads/players, but a restricted would not, correct? it’s much more useful to take stock of a guy’s reputation (if you can) than to judge him based on his age, height, address, car, etc. my determining factor was this: if he were to end up in a wheelchair, would i want to care for him and i could easily answer, yes. in the beginning of our dating and marriage he did just that, but then became all too comfortable with the fact that i was a strong, capable, mostly independent woman. i have seen her compliment the avatar pix of many men who were, frankly, average. i haven’t spoken to a single young man in the last four years who wants to marry before his late 20s at the earliest. men demand it all the time, why shouldn’t women? this sounds cynical, but at your age don’t you think it’s time to take off the optimism glasses and throw on the realism pants? and for the dumb, hot young woman who is, i suggest that she take her below average iq and work for a living. these days its dangerous to even look at a woman. we definitely need some bad boy shaming, and parents are the ones who should be doing this. he was very good looking, but kind of a mess emotionally, he had a terrible relationship with his father, who was a high testosterone type who called him a sissy. it can mean almost anything and is not that helpful on a site like this where we really try to get at the heart of things.!some days i just don’t want to live on this planet anymore…. its a woman’s prerogative to reject yo’ ass too. for loved ones, i’m probably closer to him than any of his family. i remember reading in an interview that his wife runs everything in his life, and he is more than ok with that. once the baby arrived, i would have wanted the service for the blessing of a family upon the birth of a child (also in the prayer book), and then done the baptism at a later date….’s possible be generous and loving to a man without being submissive. and so the knight of la mancha tilting at windmills with his portly squire astride a donkey is one of the most enduring images in the popular imagination but the simple comedy of the affair belies the fantastically complex, beguiling and sophisticated story on which it is based. so, this related to those girls, unless you are claiming they were totally celibate during their extended bad boy phase.“morality being a human social concept that is quite fluid across cultures and societies”not really.@zachi thought of you when writing this post, knowing full well that you’ve got women after you now who would do better to go older, and you’ll also have women after you in 10 years when you’re ready to settle down., that post i wrote about that shit test has gone viral on reddit half a dozen times, been featured prominently on pua forums all over the place, and generally made me the least popular woman that nobody ever heard of in america.

Divorced and Hung Out To Dry: Are Divorced Men Worth Dating

when they see a woman not doing the same – especially a woman reaping the benefits of marriage and not contributing back – they get, understandably, riled. know you feel this way, you say this a lot, but this has not been my experience. one young woman i know wrote one up but had no response. three weeks later her name is on the whiteboard in the basement and he pretends he doesn’t know her.% of married woman have an n of 1 or 2 (including their husbands). are are assuming, eric, that the only companionship older women can have or want is with men, but many enjoy gal pals, children, grandchildren. do agree though that a woman who wants to marry shouldn’t spend a lot of time with men who don’t. you assume, as i once did, that women actually want a relationship with – or at least a resource in – a man. no, it's not that he hasn't met the right woman. sense is that this girl is uncomfortable and is feeling pressured. so, because a woman “matures” into wanting a beta provider, it is no longer considered “bait and switch”. in college, i was engaged to a man 9 nine years my senior. i’m not so sure that the world is on the edge of a collapse as cappy is, but no matter what we think of that, his advice about staqying positive and still doing for oneself were right on. is why some guys divorced at 40/50 end up with 30 something wives, they are often career women who desperately want children. i would much rather be single forever than be with a man who married me to honor commitment in his heart when he actually felt something real for someone else. my point is, even a “restricted” woman can ride the “carousel” once or twice, and if the primary sticking point is riding at all, then unrestricted vs.) you go nut-sowe are currently at peej-state-3if it is just a matter of meds (i do not mean this unkindly), why don’t you take them? this is just how nyc rolls, ime: single women face a perilous tightrope walk between being too rapid with the sexual escalation and failing to establish sexual compatibility early enough in the relationship. there are loads of rationalizations that essentially say that if a woman is taken in by a player she deserves it. i cannot relate personally because i didn’t live it. she referred to — and recoiled from — perelman’s physical attributes, not his character defects.“incidentally, this is one of the guys she thinks might be gay. i agree that many woman are of higher value at 33 than at 25 – they are more mature, more stable, have experience and everything.” imagine that you are dating a woman and have been for two years. but calling such men fat and ugly, and how his wives wouldn’t put out for him and that’s why he keeps getting divorced, probably isn’t going to help attract many women to men like this. i hate just the idea of dating and plate spinning, and going out with different guys in one week. no “dude, you should just do such and such” or “buck up, man. many have just had privations throughout their lives and are happy for company, as more than one has said to me, somebody–anybody– who will “love” them. i have to say though that the last line of this post was my favorite. this is not so, and one does not need recourse to genetics to see that. agree that, at this age, i’m not interested in sacrificing or compromising any more. years later, men and women are still from different planets »searchsubscribe now! you see, on many ways we are working towards the same goal. i’d imagine that having access and interactions with so many folks might make it hard to tell the “good” from the “bad” on certain levels, which then requires you to spend more time with them to figure it out. long ago, men and women expired/died in their 40’s/50’s, many sooner.”dear, my only chance for getting into heaven at this point is if god has a great sense of humor.@susan:“i do not believe that most males would welcome this approach.(i should be careful – he found me via this blog and for all i know he could be reading every word. however, with my friends i let some of it out, and what is so stressing about finding the red pill is: previously i dumped all of this on my mate. she’s throwing gasoline on that fire by breaking bad on a guy like ron perelman because he’s unattractive.) yet is less fire-n-brimstone (and definitely much more erudite) than many –i’d say most– branches of christianity.” it hits all the right stereotypical and sexually fetishistic notes simultaneously. the notion that women this age will hang out a shingle “husband hunting season is open” is preposterous. in fact, the maturity angle strikes me as a great way for women to feel ok with this bait and switch. i suspect this is at the heart of your unsatisfying results. it could have simply been a nervous slip of the tongue…”let’s all agree that we can project all we want to on this particular incident, but we are never going to figure out what actually happened, or what it meant because we weren’t inside this girl’s mind at the time she said what she said. also, i get a good laugh out of hearing a man in his 50s say he’s dating down to avoid menopause. attempting to maximize our chances at this or that does not imply that anything different than that is doomed for failure.: “i do not believe that most males would welcome this approach. i had a friend from new york who, as with so many native new yorkers who leave, always made it out to be the world’s greatest place, even though he left to live elsewhere. if there is a man pursuing the same dream and we happen to meet, it’s icing on the cake. the fact that his time might be shorter might well be compensated by the ease of resources. she would have to be 13 years my junior before we hit 29, which imo is not only still reasonable, but honestly a goal i think i could have managed provided i was willing to make some compromises. mystery had his daughter and did that lame song about her, everyone was joking about what a great trophy bang she would be, but how she would have a defcon 10 bitch shield because of her familiarity with game. this suggests more of a switch in attraction triggers, not that that will make the guys that were overlooked feel any better with sloppy thirtieths. susan would be happy to know that in hs some wanna-be alpha tried to alpha his way into her pants and she gave him a big fat red stop sign. also, the looking in his eyes during sex helped, so yes, that is intimacy. missing me while he is supposed to be managing a portfolio sounds like bad news for investors. – “honestly, i don’t like it when a man tells me that he misses me either. someone who obeys the ten commandments is superior to one who knowingly does not?@gayatriif a woman needs resources to raise a child she well might look for older men, though.@susan“i said dtf – the woman who is down to f*ck now. most i’ve seen either want to relive their “highly desirable in demand” college days, want a caregiver themselves, or have soooo many issues, i feel i need a psychology degree to talk to them. found this site after searching for “middle age mutually beneficial relationship”. and then, find an attractive man near same age (mid 50’s) without having to settle.……………………………………………………i went to my favorite bar over the weekend, and this guy started chatting me up.: “i haven’t spoken to a single young man in the last four years who wants to marry before his late 20s at the earliest. but there is no way that a guy goes decades of dating without finding one woman worth sticking with for a decent length of time unless he just doesn't want to. in an polygamous society like that of the ancient hebrews, a man can not commit adultery with a single woman since she is a potential wife. i’ve done this, with me being the one holding the chainsaw. :pi dunno ana, are you sure this isn’t just more proof that the hus ladies are outliers?, i used to care more about that sort of thing, but i’m too old for that now (@jrd, yes, in manosphere terms i’m “past my prime”).@sassy, susan, and otherswhere do you find guys like this?”ha, i think this only really applies to people who never have been beta or ugly. things can get a little tense here, but of all the places i virtually “hang out” online, this one is by far one of the most civil. financial difficulties and his job losses kept me in the marriage longer than i would have liked. when i was 18, i did not feel mature enough to be dating a man in his upper 20s or 30s. i don’t see that working out around here where plenty of single woman have access to those services for little to no money. yeah, i agree that a divorced guy might not be an ideal bet, but as a formerly divorced and now remarried man, i’d at least say don’t discount a guy simply because he couldn’t make it work with some other woman.”and in my defense, i didn’t fire the first volley on this particular skirmish.) who were denied counselling and pretty much told to fuck off and man up. his “maturity” is not what got him that woman with the very shiny face. had just broken up with my so, and this group of 20-something guys acted like, well, high schoolers, when they saw me noticing this girl. this is not a modern notion – it has been true ever since people began marrying for love. – “for the record, all of this occurs in the context of both restricted and unrestricted populations., i mean this in the nicest way, racking up your n in search of butterflies and maybe “the one” would be a serious mistake for all kinds of reasons. a man approaching 50, i have to point out that a woman rejecting anyone part 40 or so isn’t getting any younger herself. other than that one time as a child, i never heard this rule of thumb ever communicated outside or hus/manosphere. you get the “ted d almost spit his coffee all over his desk” award for today. this is the guy who will say something early on like, "i have tennis on wednesday, squash on thursday, i'm camping all weekend, i need to spend monday and tuesday wriitng my novel, i walk my dog from 7 p. rob married his wife when the were both about 30 and hot. martin plays his cards close to his beefy chest, but i would not rule out a daenerys/sansa catfight smackdown for the iron throne. i think there are far, far too few people like me, and far, far too many that are opposite. i’m still working out other methods to vent this stuff, but i’ve been getting back into writing and performing music as a way to help. i meant that as a friend i don’t know what to do to help a guy, whereas with a woman, i know what i can do: listen.@susan:“i was inspired to write this post by a couple of women i know who are really, really enjoying relationships with men ten years older. it’s difficult for many women to feel sexual if they don’t feel secure first. loved how sam fell in love with pregnant gilly, one of the many daughter wives of the old man craster north of the wall and gave her that thimble from his mother (or whatever it was). he got his master’s at 27, and didn’t start his first well-paying job until then. i think many men like you have little interest in very young women. think zach should focus his efforts on someone who is on the same sexual wavelength as he is. 37 to 42 ish there is a real knowledge it is children now or never, a lot of women do struggle with this if they are single; the late 40’s early 50’s divorced guy is the second option over the single younger guys, but he is in demand. know this post is a bit late, but i was referred here by someone else and have been reading through the comments. to a woman, “macho” characteristics signal “cad,” so we tend to steer clear. ”and i would never want to be in an ltr where the woman was not already in if not well on her way to in love with me. i look after myself, no man has ever looked after me financially since i was a kid (my dad!, you really need to an article on the benefits to early-twenties women from having a no-strings hot affair with a dapper guy in his late 40s. hope, you are quite the analyzer of human nature, in my opinion. i have no doubt you will have wonderful romantic adventures ahead. this is almost never the case, not in our age. it will always be easier for him to find a wife next year than this year, so why rush? i had always been a woman who based my worth on who loved me, but once i bought my own house and started taking care of me and learned that i can be independent, my desire to be in a relationship vanished! i’m 22 and it does occasionally happen that i meet a man in his 40s i find attractive. but who know, maybe she wants thing to go at this pace. the popularization of second wave feminism, with the accompanying view that a woman’s virginity was her own to dispose of, removed those laws from the books, but i would bet that someone on this thread will characterize the criminal prosecution of the man in your link as “feminist. a mid 30s woman approaching a successful mid 30s man is essentially asking to reap the benefits of stock she did not invest in when it was low. he looked like he was late 20s or very early 30s in age. hopefully, little of this will occur in the future, although my daughter has some friends she believes are in denial about being gay. think this is not uncommon with artistic types – and this guy did go on to make his living acting and singing. i’ve had my fair share of guys in their 40s and 50s hitting on me. there’s a lot of knowing smiles/laughter among men my age when they see a young woman with an old man. his daughter ends up being played by a cad who used the lessons directly from her dad’s blog.) however, men have a strong preference for younger women, as illustrated in this ok cupid graph of male messaging by female age: as you can see, men tend to focus on the youngest women in their already skewed preference pool, and, what’s more, they spend a significant amount of energy pursuing women even younger than their stated minimum. so, yes, that means we keep putting ourselves out there in the world and living, hopefully at this point, with more gratitude than expectations. what kind of human being would ever write “strong and independent” unless it was a man? lowe looks like he’s had some work, so i’m not sure that his naural physical condition is much better than that of the mother who gave him two sons and stuck with him through his drug issues. his then followers got to divy up the captured chicks after they conquered groups and killed the men folk.. more immediate access to sex, or is already involved w/other women (even something lined up for later that night) and didn’t need to escalate with you at that point.@ted dyeah, the truth is, my “margin for error” on this issue is very, very, very slim. it was only until i was in my mid 20s that i felt mature enough to date more mature men in their late 20s and 30s. payed his part of the rent, bought him his clothes, food etc. the woman who truly bonds to you is going to be a much better lover over the long-term.. that’s also why i mentioned early in the post that commitment-avoidant guys often become less so after graduating from college, because they get knocked back to low man on the totem pole. thanks for letting me know i’m not alone in this.” the man who deflowers her compensates the family for the loss of her virginity; the man she marries should the first man refuse her pays the price one would pay for a widow or divorcee. i suspect this girl needs a more restricted guy, not someone who will drop her in favor of the “cheaper” sex that is readily available to you. me put it another way, i don’t find this rule of thumb to be any less useful than, say, “never date anyone at your workplace”, which i have heard many times over the years. but as long as he keeps adjusting the age of his women up to compensate his aging, dating will become easier and easier. for me, one of the hardest aspects of male relationship management is learning how to manufacture the appropriate timing. just because he is a man and you are a woman does not mean that you have to like him. i’ve read some interesting points on preference and choices in this thread and i think that is what it boils down to. and until we do –which i believe only comes after this life– the only superiority we can practice is a false one.’ve dived with whale sharks before in the gulf of thailand and the andaman sea. if the man is willing to allow me to continue that independence and not box me into a fixed role then i would definitely consider it. it’s absolutely horrible to do this to another person given the level of avoidable emotional trauma that you caused. the primary motivation to find or be with a man is gone. my experience, any man that i’ve given my phone number to who was interested in me called me within a week of receiving my number. the truth is that without these mores, many men would have sex with females who are not yet adults. they would probably introduce one another to family at this point, perhaps visit one another’s hometowns, etc. his point was that was that some people just have that intellectual intuition, which others don’t (which is essentially the same as yours, i think). here, with the latest stories and news in progressive parenting.’m starting to think that “the fates” love playing cruel, dating related jokes on me.’m not the type of person that enjoys emotions very much, but this is exactly the kind of thing i need to share in my romantic relationships. if the man fails, he is communicating to the woman that since he cannot even stand up to her, it is probably the case he will not be up to the task of protecting her and her children. i guess there’s nothing but asshole men when it comes to dating here of late! this post is not a departure from anything i’ve ever said. think of how different these two scenarios are:one man to another: hey, pretty boy!)not sure if this is an example of girl game, but i have been working on accepting and being nice to people, including myself. unless a miracle happens, i know i’ll be just another unmarried on the shelf older woman. i am an attractive, never married, 47-yr-old woman, who has always been very independent.”i had to listen to this transaction take place through my vent in my room in law school once. what is it about them that causes men to act this way? sexually, it is not great most of the time- and that is not me not liking sex- just get tired of performance issues….”how many days did you get up to before you had the hallucinations?“how many times have we heard guys say “sloppy seconds” here? (this could go for women too i suppose, but i date men. so finding real love for many of us men is certainly a real challenge now as you can see which most of us really have no reason to blame ourselves at all since it does take two too tango. it felt wierd and scary, as though a man who was so much older was deliberately targeting me because he might have felt i was young and naive (vulnerable, but not in a good way) and not mature enough to negotiate a relationship with a man so much older and experiencedi had the same association – when the male writer suggested that we need rules and norms so that fathers don’t hit on their daughters’ friends.*i bet if there was a guy who looked like a carbon copy of him, who was just a regular guy of awesome character who truly loved his family and adored his wife, we’d all be swooning. the ancient hebrews did allow a man to divorce his wife provided he gave her a “bill of divorcement,” returned her dowry, etc. there was no fliration or encouragement of sexual feelings on my part, and he did a fairly good job of hiding his feelings, which built up gradually, for years. though susan apparently doesn’t think this of her husband, she is certainly giving voice to those who do. but i don’t think it’s because this girl is “too good” or “too chaste” for zach, or that he is too good for her. you can’t dodge this by redefining it to be college-educated only, unless you want to admit that you never talk to men without college. that’s what saved my husband, knowing his mother cared very much.”i’m fully aware of what i’m sure many women see here as a major difference between an intentional trick played on a man by a woman and a natural progression of maturity. without those rules, many women would have sex with men who aren’t interested supporting their children! for some reason they seem to get a bad rap in this part of the internet, and i’m not sure why.”if the median male marriage age is 28, then by definition 50% of men have done exactly this. perelman is alpha by that definition and he is beyond gross!, the woman’s “bride price” goes down if she’s not a virgin when she does marry., this leads to a creepy place: would you be doing really well if she was 20 years your junior?”i’m not quite sure what to say about this one. am going to assume, with great confidence, that when this adage was coined they were not thinking of 80 year old men.‘ohh i met this girl, she’s just a touch prettier, tits are a touch larger etc. cooper, time isn’t an old bald cheater, rather, as per this post, time for those unfortunate males under 25, is more like smv steroids.”charlotte is protecting herself emotionally, which is an important survival skill for a woman in nyc! @ hope“ah, maybe that is because i tend to not over-exaggerate the effects of something, the way certain folks in the manosphere shriek every time a woman says something remotely “bad” about any man. now obviously those are only sometimes true, but it’s a brush many guys paint with.

What does dating but not serious mean

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