Dating a guy 8 years older than you you may not be very compatible with her, and there is nothing wrong with that. now i will admit i found the bleach blonde to be hot in a “boner test” kind of way, but that means very little to most guys since lots of women pass that test. you’re probably one of the prettiest colored women i have ever met”.” “i don’t know, why don’t you ask lok-ious-the-magnificent. keep repeating this and punctuate the five year period with two girlfriends, meaning that instead of this, you get (periodically):weekend 1: spend all weekend with girlfriend.@ hansoloi feel like such a creeper, but i can’t stop staring at your photo. i’m saying is, i bet you make a really great impression. haven’t you ever enjoyed just holding hands with a person? i just think you’ve got to get with a nicer (trans: more restricted) class of girls! he was pretty good looking, blonde, and very tall (6’4-6’6). the attractive older guys tend to compete well when it comes to the gorgeous ones because they have more money and status.@ escoffieri mean that the two terms are less than a milimeter apart yet one signifies that you are confederate plantation-owning civil war general and the other means you are chair of the department of peace and conflict studies at mills college.’s easy to forget about this kind of thing when you are young and seemingly invincible. – “well, other than the part about moving solely based on job location (i think you must give real thought to family location etc. an older man is established, less prone to let his affections meander, and much less likely to fall prey to a young woman’s shit tests; his younger counterparts generally do not have the wisdom that comes with experience. and for better or worse, you and i are pretty like minded. she sounds like someone who will want to have sex using a sheet with a hole in it (curb your enthusiasm).“60 year old david petraeus and 41 (sic) year old rupert sanders disagree with you. do you think that is enough time to know someone well enough to sleep with?@tasminsure an older man *may* have the ability to attract younger women, but this is because he has elevated himself above the majority of other men, younger and older – largely in spite of his age not merely because of it, and he must continue to work at it.“but the judgment goes both ways here, and you can see that in iggles’ comment (sorry to put you on the spot iggles! the truth is that there are tons of “good matches” for every person, and you will never be satisfied in your search for the one because there will always be someone “better” than each one you find.(i didn’t have this issue, i once spent 3 hours solving an incredibly complex inheritance problem from a couple years forward, while in a biology study group studying for an exam that evening. average] and enrolled her in a local school), and started working part time and met a guy. confess i worried about you, intj and the other young guys while writing this – i didn’t want you to feel discouraged. things you should know before dating a guy with a beard. somebody charlotte would be best off with a guy who’s restricted, but also in her age range. recently to a woman describe relationship woes with a man ten years older than she is, i noticed her friends were quick to say, “that’s why he’s 32 and single.” i have to say, though, it really made me chuckle when you said to hope,“your solipsism is showing. a 50 year old man is more likely to be in the “well off” league, but well off doesn’t get you candice swanepoel. there is no way you can discern that without dating them first. though i have to admire the both of you for really giving it a chance. time and circumstance being chaotic, two of those 4 relationships ended before marriage, and one 12 years after marriage.“one is the “don’t sleep with him until you’re dating”. you don’t want to end up with someone who doesn’t make you feel warm and snuggly.”i think you know it when you are with someone you can see as your lifelong mate, and i believe in that intuition. i suspect this is at the heart of your unsatisfying results., i did not mention his story because he was and is an odd guy. i know firsthand that women in the same age group (28+) already face similar reactions from men, even if they do appear young and in-shape.@ charlottei would say that the guy wasn’t very interested in you. there seems to be a pattern here… ;dfew guys have any interest in being pretty. for you, i find it hard to believe that you were at the bottom of the pile with those luscious big brown south asian boobies and delectable chocolate nipples.. well, despite the fact that there are probably a few guys here who, i would, assume regard me as an old battle axe, dh would say that i am “pleasant (enough–he likes a little feistiness), loyal (to a fault–as is he)and want to fuck him silly on a regular basis (as long as both our aged knees hold out)”. which makes the timing rather comical to me…)all this talk of 10 years being too much is bs and only applies at the lower end. it took five years of programming as a teenager before i could take freelance jobs on the open market.”there are good reasons for women, either in their early 20s or older, to be wary of guy (strangers) over 30. i’m simply saying that you can decide to break up with your gf for gaining 10 lbs. is it that younger women started to question your views? some try to relocate to the location of the other, but it can be difficult to find jobs in the same location, especially knowing that further moves are likely just a couple of years away. was the most emo guy i’ve ever known, but to be honest, that was part of his appeal. it can be more challenging to meet older guys, who are unlikely to hang out in the same venues frequented by the post-college crowd. in other words, being the same fat, ugly, sweaty gross guy he was when he was married gives these women a good reason to reneg on an essential element of the marital compact. you could start with google, wikipedia and the news media. you are absolutely correct, and the need to date and marry older is one of the logical consequences of the current smp., there are plenty of sensitive guys out there that will be head over heels for a girl soon after meeting her (look, some girls really do have beautiful eyes and smiles, and we get transfixed) and they should know that it might be really important that mask their real feelings and pretend to be less interested than they really are. the very fact that the ltr is you know long, should be a dead giveaway that the two have very different rule sets. two guys behind the deli counter gave me free food!”so, ask yourself this: what do you think would happen if every guy who might approach you could read your post at #758? better to drop disneyesque/churchy ideals of how attraction works, and up your ssi so that it matches reality. – they sound like the women your students hope to become! – what’s the psychology in dating an older man who looks young?, more like how they frame ron paul to sound like he is some sort of radical (you see, he was both in favor of smaller government and opposed the iraq war…what a nutjob).@jpi think this is one of the problems in life; you are generally going to find someone you like better because you are going to continue to be exposed to new people as you move forward in life. while i recognize his pain, i also recognize that similar comments irl will get you committed. however, he will not magically appear on your 23rd b’day., your account above is way too tame for what we have now.@ramble“however, i did ask you a question a few threads back that you never answered, so, i will ask it again:oh man, ramble, if you are going to talk about how much you long for women to get dumped if they gain 5 lbs…. thought you were getting hit on by men when you were babysitting and that you never hurt for attention and that not one girl in your sorority was below a 6. when i say than i am older than i look, people look at me carefully and say “so you are what, 30? you are co-authoring a paper, have musical skillz (i still think you should learn the violin version of smooth criminal– it’s not hard! a general rule, uni, for a smart and not pretty guy, living in a dorm is torturous hell.) you go nut-sowe are currently at peej-state-3if it is just a matter of meds (i do not mean this unkindly), why don’t you take them? lot of the stuff i did to accept the “unacceptable” parts of myself would probably seem super-lame to you.@just1zi deleted your comment on child support – i have no interest in a highjack that will bring hollenhund et al over here. would be 15 or 20 seconds they would never forget, let me tell you. i’ll take at face value what you all say that you are not at all attracted to men 15 to 20 years older (although part of me wonders if this is one of those cases where we should watch they do rather than listen to what they say). last time i was attracted to a guy more than 3 years older than me was in high school. than that boy and those fathers, you got almost no attention from boys because of the competition from taller, blonder california girls and then you go to college on the east coast and you are getting dates, from different guys, each night of the weekend. the majority of college age women went for older guys out of college then who does that leave for the college guys?@jpi’m so sorry to hear that you lost your mom so early! my point was that after a longer time (a year or more), guys seem to feel more obligated to continue a relationship if they are no longer really into it. this is a blog for young women, ostensibly you are here for your daughter.”so you don’t feel neglected…again, from my pov, just one ons for a young woman is riding the carousel. considering how many men here have denigrated gold-diggers, i’m surprised by the approval of it — i guess it’s groovy if you’re really hot. this makes her anxious, she is a restricted woman, you are an unrestricted man, so she thinks you’re playing her for sex (because you’re going through the actions by route). this suggests more of a switch in attraction triggers, not that that will make the guys that were overlooked feel any better with sloppy thirtieths. you can’t stamp this out in me unless you can completely unmake me and reform me into something else. since i began reading in the ‘sphere, i will occasionally slip in a manosphere trope like, “would you like me better if i were more submissive? i am not saying that a guy i meet this weekend at a bar couldn’t be ideally compatible, but how would i really know if i’ve barely had any adult relationships? i would crush on older guys when i was 13, but i really didn't start actually dating an older guy until i was 26; he was 40. you are always going on about being short, but 5’7″ isn’t “short. but, if so, that would be 15 or 20 seconds they would never forget, let me tell you. perhaps its just that he has spent several years plowing through the “hotter, younger, tighter” women, so he won’t miss out on anything when he prioritizes the older women now. the way your mindset is now, i see only two possible outcomes if you do find a guy (or guys): 1) you break the heart(s) of some ltr-oriented guy(s); 2) you succumb to some players and break your own heart, reducing your mmv in the process. i live in one of nyc’s most fun areas in an adorable apartment that i pay for myself (i fully support myself) and most of my friends are a few years older from work, etc. in america, prior to about 1950, it was possible to sue and/or jail a man for “breech of promise” in the circumstances described in the article you linked. you want a woman to marry you because she’d been in an ltr with you, even though her attraction for you had begun to wane in recent months, and a handsome guy at work was tempting her with regular invitations?@ passer_bycrap, now i have to rush home quicky and have my wife take care of this raging hard on you just me.’ve heard mixed things about online dating, but what else do you expect? course, this is all just based on a few long comments by her (and sometimes reading between the lines), so maybe she’s totally different than how she strikes the guys here.@t-paine“or perhaps its just that he has spent several years plowing through the “hotter, younger, tighter” women, so he won’t miss out on anything when he prioritizes the older women now. it’s clear that you have fallen hook, line and sinker for one another. would you like to play yourself in the hus movie? that women’s preferences shift more towards dads than cads as they get older (and incidently less attractive)? new guy confesses he has girlfriend, will break up with her. had a bunch of pretty gfs in hs and then you did not have one average or below average sister in your sorority (“none were below a 6”). i think you underestimate that number of guys that married women who were at best marginally attracted to them, because they didn’t know any better. when the former commenter obs said that all women can do is “be hot and lower your standards”? feels he has “power” in the relationshippersonally and professionally, he has one up on you and may think only he has a right to call the shots in the relationship. i am also a very loving person, but i don’t show it in the typical “omg you are the most amazing boyfriend in the world” facebook status kind of way. honey boo boo's mama june went from 460 lbs to a size 4 (! was recently explaining the ins and outs of drinking and how to ask permission from your elders to me (different culture). plus, you are changing the argument here a bit (and the other guys are falling for it).”saturday 🙂 with my mil 🙁“you know that your history is entwined with these feelings. when you consider my point from earlier that without an inheritance or extreme luck, resources and youth are pretty mutually exclusive. i recently saw him in something else, playing a bad guy.. i would hardly say i wove a trap for him, and i’m pretty offended you think so.” only 24% agree that “your most important personal goal is to get married.@ susanomg, j will probably have a good concrete suggestion for dealing with your friend, but if you think he is really contemplating suicide i think you should alert his loved ones and urge him to talk to someone asap. (granted, her older sister was kinda slutty, so, you can’t win them all.“incidentally, this is one of the guys she thinks might be gay. most guys i know think that way as well, but plenty of girls i know have said they could make out for hours with nothing else.@otcmy personal view of a ltr includes a much deeper level of personal commitmentwhat have you promised someone in an ltr? most of the older guys are either players or looking for a wife, whereas a younger guy is probably more likely to share her timeline. but at least you grasp the radical notion that others may not think and feel exactly like you do at all times. never, ever trust what a guy’s friends tell you about the guy. i know it is impossible to really “know” what goes through mens minds, but you have so much insight., you might as reasonably have said that he is the tallest man on the show because the men you regard as tall are much different than many of the definitions you’ve seen. i’m curious because i personally don’t know many (or any) guys that are overly emotional like you’ve described- it would seem intuitive that most men would be overly guarded about their emotions (and yes, i may be biased because that is how i am). long as you are neurochemically high, so to speak, it’s hard to see how you figure this out. is always interesting to see girls get that deer-caught-in-headlights look when, after hearing their checklist of things they want in a man, you ask them what they are bringing to the table. apparently gave some epic shit test to some guy when you were 14. never made out with a guy who didn’t already tell me he was falling for me, which is why my kiss n is single digit. on the other hand, i have a great uncle, also with type i diabetes and he’s now 80 years old! if you know you’ll be moving in 4 years, does it matter if your mate will as well? i find the older people get, the more comfortable they are, both with their sexuality, but also with who they are as people., it may be “typical and normal” but just because it worked out for you doesn’t mean it worked out for society or for most of the people in it. grandfather was in the army with this one guy who isn’t even all that great-looking. graduate, look for jobs, first one that lands one picks where you both will live. you haven’t yet had the pleasure…why we shit testwhy was that comment directed at me. my family didn’t use it when i was growing up in the 60s. i also recall being shocked by some of the pairings – girls i thought were 4s getting together with guys who were easily 6s, and not just for sex. if you really want my take on faith and heaven, it is far more complicated. a girl wants butterflies, with little seriousness, she’ll have to choose a guy who is looking for the same. i don’t think there is much of a nightlife scene for young people where i grew up. accepting your faults one thing, but refusing to improve another. all the discussion that goes here about how most men are just looking for a girl to settle down with, even back in my dating years, looking overly anxious to marry scared men off. one guy told me to take off my clothes, and i promptly went to the bathroom and changed into my pjs, lol! since people choose mates who resemble their opposite-sex parents, the daughter might be more likely to fall for a guy who acts like her pua father. his answer was “there are 6 billion people in the world. hate ditch on you, but i have to get a kid to the eye doctor’s.., a parallel dating strategy when you consider multiple candidates at once, rather than one at a time.@rambleas you can see, men tend to focus on the youngest most fertile womeninteresting, while i was researching this post i came across a raging debate among evo psychologists., for some reason i thought you were in your late 30s…ok, got it. i’m already often the oldest guy in the room at social events.”the point is that you can decided to break up with your wife (who had your children) for gaining 10 lbs. connorexpertphoto: weheartit 8 deep mistakes you make with him that kill his attraction to youif you keep finding yourself in heartbreaking, dead end relationships, listen up. you consider incorporating yourself as an insurance carrier, i can possibly consider bringing an action against you. so, when you ask why guys might be bothered by this “maturation”, ask the dumb beach bimbo with bigguns why she might resent being nothing but a cum dumpster.
Dating a guy older than you@ susanit is not true that to treat female depression “you just have to be a good listener. relationship was fun and short-lived, but what i’ve learned since then has taken me a long way when dating older men.. i’m interested in a person 18 months younger than me. implies that it is fine and well for a woman to go for the bad boy because she is immature today, but 10 years from now she can be totally happy with her provider husband because she “matured”., at least for the time being, the ‘sphere is going to continue to be marginalized and so, therefore, you are going to get a somewhat poor signal-to-noise ratio. you want to know what my first impression of him was?”in a perfect world, this would be the case, but my experience in my mid 20s is that women your age are not frequently selecting for this. what your doing by suggesting that a relationship can end for any reason might sound great in theory but it does not occur in the real world. ive seen men @ late 70`s that you would guess to be @ 60, and some men at 65 look and act 78. jesus says in the bible, prostitutes and tax collectors — those on whom we look down our noses — are entering the kingdom of god before you and me. but you are a couple, and everyone knows you as a pair. one is, i think, still a virgin; the other constantly picked the wrong guys. and don't call him an “old man,” even if you're joking; it will only make matters worse! – “as someone else said, guys don’t have a medium between booty call and girlfriend. 🙂i wonder if, on some level, she senses that you have made a lot of conquests, for lack of a better term. a man 10 years older and you could be in for a 20+ year widowhood. just asking you to not tar all of us with the same brush. she has a great sense of humor – you click from day one and thoroughly enjoy working together. which is kind of like what you’re doing but involves me working all weekend because i took on too much work 18 months ago. i can think of a number of guys who you should share that thought with. most guys i know think that way as well, but plenty of girls i know have said they could make out for hours with nothing else. he’s a member of your tribe, she’s not. i mean, how do you feel about a dealership called “honest used cars”? (zach, you shouldn’t have to pressure a restricted girl into taking her top off.“you’re not explaining why she looks at sex through the prism of a 7th grader.”well, if you go limerant, that decision gets made for you because it causes a cognitive system crash and you’re just along for the ride. i meant that as a friend i don’t know what to do to help a guy, whereas with a woman, i know what i can do: listen. i know what i am attracted to, and the types of people i like, but through more dating you find things out about yourself and more preferences to lead you to the person you really should be with, who is most compatible.“i’m wondering if the reason many of you seem to think that “getting to know someone” takes months is because you all just like too damn many people.@sassy, susan, and otherswhere do you find guys like this? tribalism, ie favoritism towards the in-group, occurs across every culture and time frame, and is driven by genetics (your tribe is much more likely to share genes with you than some outsider). want fun and that butterfly feeling, and you can get it, but to do so you are either going to break some poor guy’s heart or else fall for a player or players., did you mention: “i’m super busy with work right now so i wouldn’t even have time for something serious. if a guy is way older (say 40) he has to be well off financially or have some other game-changer for me to even consider him, if at all. my first boss in my first “real” job was about 10 years older than me. primary reason that women tend to date older, i feel, is that for a man to achieve mastery in a given skill or profession it takes 10,000 hours/5 years, as it has been said. there is no way you can discern that without dating them first.”this was the farthest from what i was trying to say when i said guys only date for two reasons.”well, the media attention is on the top guys, not the dorks who couldn’t make sense. however, any way you slice it, we are going to have ltrs – with sex – before people marry. don’t think you have much to lose by trying to talk to her about it at some point (either now or after a more platonic date). didn’t say it was a goal, she said it under the heading of “you never know. write it fast, a bunch of other people have just seen your idea! – add me to the guys on zach’s girl’s side.@emily:” my experience is that the guy will stay in the bad ltr, but only until he finds his next jumpoff girl, so as to not interrupt the steady sex supply. affairs are common – the woman has little to lose if she’s young and single, provided she doesn’t fall for you. know a couple girls that have similar complaints of not meeting guy, despite very active efforts. you do not show it, but you are developing a strong physical attraction for her. again, i only actually am caring about this because he was a higher caliber than the majority of guys i meet. for example, 68% say that at this stage in life they want fun and freedom; 54% say they are not interested in getting married anytime soon; 64% agree “there are so many bad marriages today it makes one question the value of marriage;” and 41% agree that “you can’t trust women to tell the truth about their past relationships.”did something induce the mania, or had you had them before and just not know they were manic? just as you do not owe any woman a relationship based on having had a few dates with her. i still say she might really come alive with the right guy, but i don’t think she and zach are a match. did have men hitting on you in junior high and hs (even though it was creepy).@ susan walshhe was the most emo guy i’ve ever known, but to be honest, that was part of his appeal. can actually pull much younger and hotter women if they take care of themselves, have something women want(high status, charm, charisma, sexual experience etc etc), and if they don’t become emotionally attached to someone. i wouldn’t be surprised if contact was made in the future, but be prepared for more of the same game and then decide if you are comfortable being part of a harem. if you mean average looking, again, i don’t see the link to obesity. you stay with your girlfriend, and marry her, hoping such a thing never happens again? went to a few of their weddings in the past few years and they looked like they had each consciously traded a sexy guy for a secure one. i said this:while you may not want to focus exclusively on older guys, i recommend that this be one strategy in your portfolio. i’m sure that is true for you re men in the 35-40 range. i have several good guy friends from school but “out of touch, out of mind” as they continue to party while i am already settled into my job. i haven’t spoken to a single young man in the last four years who wants to marry before his late 20s at the earliest. the only reason ron perelman was able to pull ellen barkin (even when she was 46 and well past her prime) was because of his money. one really hot guy did and i accepted that deal for three years.”it’s too late to deny whatever it is that you’re denying here.. i wish more people saw it the way you do. one says: “i hate it when they say they miss you! while you may not want to focus exclusively on older guys, i recommend that this be one strategy in your portfolio.@hansolo, tedhere is a quote for you both:one idea/lights a thousand candles–ralph waldo emerson. you can even hear it when people compliment toddlers, “oh boy, he’s going to break a lot of hearts! my aesthetician skin-person is from scottsdale, which is interchangeable with la to me– very current on trends, very “plasticky” (plastic surgery at a young age, even as a teenager 🙁 ). of my friends im the only one that actually sees 35 year old regular guys as attractive, they are pretty much invisible to most girls my age, ime. did it in your personal life, so how about doing it here? (i probably have the details wrong here but…)so, you being restricted still have some historical pock marks, but you seem to be saying “if you guys would just lay off the real sluts, the rest of us women out here are just lovely. there’s something to be said for dealing with infants in one’s youth rather than middle age. you are probably going to have to include online dating as part of your strategy. it felt wierd and scary, as though a man who was so much older was deliberately targeting me because he might have felt i was young and naive (vulnerable, but not in a good way) and not mature enough to negotiate a relationship with a man so much older and experienced.” the guy i was into ended up leaving to go to another birthday party in a rush taken by his other friend without taking my number, which i was a bit disappointed by., so, at 36, i am just past a male peak’s value 🙂 good i have secured the relationships already 🙂but then, i bet not one of you would have guessed my age correctly.@ramble:” still, were the 3s, 4s and 5s in missouri getting all those dates on the weekend, or was it more something you saw in your (above average) sorority? think when i was younger i had this perception that my life would be over once i hit 40 and the rest was a slow slide into oblivion.@detideti, i don’t think hope made your point for you at all. if not, you only get one chance and that’s life. 🙁incidentally, this is one of the guys she thinks might be gay. you don’t give a donkey’s ass about *her*, you just like the way her flesh looks. all the more reason for the girl in her 20s to go for a guy in his 20s., if you are saying that some men are delusional, then you will get no argument from me.@passer bybut those women who do like the older guys with authority seem to really really like them. i would have had no issue at all going 10 years younger, and 13 years younger would have made her 29, which imo is plenty old enough to decide who she wants to marry.“your comments in this thread make me realize that you are quite rigid about what you expect and how quickly. i said in the post, the women i know in their 20s are not typically interested in men even 10 years older.:the truth is, most women really don’t want to go more than 10 years older at the outside. otherwise, you’re living a lie and robbing me of a real opportunity to marry someone who loves me the way you now love the other woman. davinexpertmust-see videosvideophoto: unsplash 6 ways monogamy can make your sex life so much betterno, really! it turns out, most of the guys i know never pined for them as well.’m pretty proud of the fact that she had no idea i was terrified and just thought it was my awkwardness at being with a new woman after 12 years of marriage., wait, as a pua does she go out and pick up guys? you’re essentially looking for a fwb situation without the casual sex, which doesn’t really exist. remember when i was a little younger than charlotte and a guy invited me to see a concert, that was going to take a 3hr starlit drive though the desert to get there. 😉 but since you made it a question, i’ll answer it simply: because i never want my boys to have to “give up” on it in their personal lives.: (on hotornot), of photo i showed you, just me +2 others. this skews society, and means that women are forced to search for a guy with some sort of economic security if they want to have a child.:but, after a month (and no sex), the two of you were not so emotionally attached such that your feelings would (or should) impact his decision whether or not to continue the relationship. it will get better as you move into the 2nd and 3rd episodes i think.@detideti, we should wait for susan to respond to you directly. and then wanting to have you “take care of it” by having sex? you ever really had to work at anything –i mean, in regards to developing a skill– where there has been no immediate payoff? when we see a guy in his 30s, we assume he could obviously be married right now if he wanted, so he must be choosing to play the field indefinitely. a man approaching 50, i have to point out that a woman rejecting anyone part 40 or so isn’t getting any younger herself. i mean, they didn’t know i was 21 (i often am mistaken for 24-26) but i’m sure because i said my roommate was 23 that i was around that age as well. it goes strictly against deti’s lectures last week – perhaps you didn’t agree with him about a woman following her husband and putting his career first?. i wonder if the bias of your own past being ‘average’ is clouding your vision on reality? is what it’s really like to be an alcoholic in your 20s. you may know, i love employing stories to better relay a point.”it’s pretty easy for some guys to meet girls in nyc — the ones who are good-looking, outgoing, and charming. some reason, that story, and the fact that you did not have any friends that were below a 6, reminded me of this:I learned the truth at seventeen. you’re starting with a woman that is already 25, by the time they’re ready to have that kid they’re already cutting it awfully close to the fertility decline. i could go younger than that, five years seems fine but ten seems like a stretch.“if you can get him, that means you can get someone even better! needs to be a manual that expressly notes that hooking up does not automatically mean that you are now bf/gf., the median age at marriage for women with a degree is 30, and there is a very large population of women your age who are not partnered.” please, please, please, all you lurkers out there, never devalve a woman., i’d like to add, you may have thought is was all “just for fun”, but i’m willing to bet that for him, he was hoping for one of two things:2. like the quote to deti yesterday, be the change you wish to see in this world, ted! a thought, susanre: fox news, war on menever since one of the guys linked to it a few days ago, it has remained on an open tab. actually agree with the idea that the body is secondary to the soul, but i also think you have to take a leap of faith because someone has to provide the body and maybe being imperfect is actually the key to fulfilling their destiny. you troll here, at rollo’s and and at manboobz? two guys behind the deli counter gave me free food! before marriage, you are not obligated to stay with someone through thick and thin.@olive,if he was like me, then he started honing those computer skills at a very young age. yeah, i agree that a divorced guy might not be an ideal bet, but as a formerly divorced and now remarried man, i’d at least say don’t discount a guy simply because he couldn’t make it work with some other woman. you are over-reacting and possibly imputing the motives of other women in your life to susan. i generally have a thing for older men, but they usually pass my limit around 47. i understand that that discussion does not need to include the subject of marriage, but after 2 years a girl is usually on the wife track or she is getting off that train. young women know they have sexual power over unavailable middle-aged men, and they relish it. you know: never cry, never show fear, only emotions allowed were anger and happiness, but only happiness in a surface sense.@susan:“she didn’t say it was a goal, she said it under the heading of “you never know. guys who are equating marriage to ltr, or ending and ltr to ending a marriage, are way off base., i think you should go to a speed dating event and tell every guy that you want to married within the next year and don’t want to waste time if that’s not going to happen, so that’s why you are interviewing a lot of guys speed dating isn’t the venue for that sort of thing. women want young dads just a bit older than they are. yeah, but it puts him on the spot and you read his immediate reaction to figure out what’s up. it works out with my boyfriend (who’s a year older) but i would look like a fool in a date with a 30yr old. as a very restricted person, i’m constantly shocked at how quickly some people feel comfortable getting naked with someone new”you must not consume large quantities of alcohol….’s not coming through at all in any of your posts. you’re really interested, you should follow some of richard shweder’s work on moral psychology. seems to me most women prefer you to be this way as a man anyway (and that’s not chest puffing, just an observation). i’m wondering if the reason many of you seem to think that “getting to know someone” takes months is because you all just like too damn many people. they broke up a few years later; this affected how she viewed things. it’s not surprising as you are twice her age. his “maturity” is not a plus unless it affords the woman something she can’t get from a guy her own age or a bit older. you get the “ted d almost spit his coffee all over his desk” award for today. in other words, if your friend says something about a bullet through the head and he has a gun lying around, then yeah you probably want to alert someone. a failed drug overdose sounds like a better method, if you are going to fail and change your mind.“why you should date an older guy”for a minute, i thought i had accidently logged onto the askmen forum., i won’t suggest anyone withdraw from the social scene because they aren’t ready to commit to a marriage, as some of the guys seem to be suggesting. weight lifting increases your t, but precisely how much is sort of an x factor. you’ll more than likely met him through a social circle that you are establishing now.